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HOW COULD WE BE WORSE OFF

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trouble
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HOW COULD WE BE WORSE OFF

Post by trouble »

I was just wondering if someone out there could tell me and thousands of other posties how we would be worse off if the Tories get in at the next election.

Under the labour government at present we are already moving to a 9-5 job
family friendly policies are been done away with
longer deliviers are to become common practice (more work less hours)
customers are no longer seen as a priority
d2d's are to be increased
pension deficit continues to grow
workers rights continually eroded
more jobs to go one way or another

Were these not some of the reasons why we the union members went on strike in the first place

What have the union done to help us ---- nothing apart from aline themselves with Royal Mail
lets lie back and take whatever Royal Mail want and tell the members it is a good idea
steven100
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Post by steven100 »

There is not enough space/time for me and many others i'd assume why tories would be worse.
Demonsorter
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Post by Demonsorter »

I reckon that WHEN the tories are elected out of plain stupidity the countdown will begin for royal mail!

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Woodcutter's Son
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Post by Woodcutter's Son »

I have seen that cu*t Cameron stating that private investment will be sought for Royal Mail. Things are sh*t just now, but the current bunch are certainly the lesser of two evils as far as I'm concernced. I am staunchly Socialist, but also a realist. Barring a dramatic turnaround for Labour, I think when the Tories get in we are headed for very stormy waters. :nervous
gerardy
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Post by gerardy »

if the tories do get in and things then start to get stormy, what way would any agreement made now with labour stand.

if we are going to take s**t from the tories when they get in, why then should we take it now from labour

it seems we are getting it from all sides
DirtyHarry
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Post by DirtyHarry »

Time for a reality check.
Liebour didn't kill off the part-privatisation bill they were so desperate to get in. It's been put on the back burner, that's all.
If the economic climate were to change for the better, they'd have it off that back burner as fast as they could.
They betrayed us, they continue to betray us, and given time, will eventually stick the knife into this once great public service.
Liebour have betrayed the working man/woman, I cannot on principle vote for that shower of shyte. I'm sorry, but there it is.
If toffee-nosed David Cameron gets the chance to privatise Royal Mail, most of the groundwork will have been done for him by Liebour.
DirtyHarry
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Post by DirtyHarry »

gerardy wrote:if the tories do get in and things then start to get stormy, what way would any agreement made now with labour stand.

if we are going to take s**t from the tories when they get in, why then should we take it now from labour

it seems we are getting it from all sides
We're stuffed either way, Liebour or Tories. Neither gives a rat's ass about working people.
baldrick
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Post by baldrick »

Only difference will be that the Tories will do it sooner than New Labour. :mfo
BELIAL
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Post by BELIAL »

baldrick wrote:Only difference will be that the Tories will do it sooner than New Labour. :mfo

Have to disagree with that. Only difference is ,the Tories will shaft you and scream from the rooftops that it's for your own good; New Tories will shaft you but deny it completely and say it's for your own good
Bye
belle smith
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Post by belle smith »

The backbenchers in a Conservative goverment will not rebel about this, maybe about 50% top tax rate or inheratance tax for millionaires but not this. Unlike the many fine upstanding Labour backbenchers. on the plus side under a tory goverment our union leaders might find their backbone.
Woodcutter's Son
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Post by Woodcutter's Son »

belle smith wrote:The backbenchers in a Conservative goverment will not rebel about this, maybe about 50% top tax rate or inheratance tax for millionaires but not this. Unlike the many fine upstanding Labour backbenchers. on the plus side under a tory goverment our union leaders might find their backbone.
Well put Mr Smith :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
packmule
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Post by packmule »

Woodcutter's Son wrote:
belle smith wrote: under a tory goverment our union leaders might find their backbone.
Got to have a backbone in the first place, not slime

And as for the Tories have some of us perhaps forgotten what "Mad Cow Thatcher" did to the unions and the ordinary working man/woman .

Look at my wad.

Completely decimated the manufacturing base of this country , maybe that's why we are the last to emerge from recession as we produce nothing anymore.

After leading the Industrial Revolution thanks to that shower of s**t in Westminster we've been reduced to a nation of shopkeepers.

Labour & Tories , different name, same principles, LOOK AFTER NUMBER ONE SCREW THE REST.

:mfo :mfo :mfo
IWW Fellow Worker
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Post by IWW Fellow Worker »

Let's face it, Labour will lose the next election. That's not because everyone will turn out and vote for the other shower of scum, but because millions of people can see no reason to vote Blue Labour and will stay at home on election day. The days when working people voted Labour just because they weren't the Tories have gone. Labour should have given people a reason to vote FOR them, and they didn't.
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!

"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
mailman71
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Post by mailman71 »

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:Let's face it, Labour will lose the next election. That's not because everyone will turn out and vote for the other shower of scum, but because millions of people can see no reason to vote Blue Labour and will stay at home on election day. The days when working people voted Labour just because they weren't the Tories have gone. Labour should have given people a reason to vote FOR them, and they didn't.
spot on mate,as someone who has worked under both party's as a postman,but the tories are a different breed they hate trade unions with a passion and you can bet they will be after us as soon as they win the election.
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Post by IWW Fellow Worker »

mailman71 wrote:spot on mate,as someone who has worked under both party's as a postman,but the tories are a different breed they hate trade unions with a passion and you can bet they will be after us as soon as they win the election.
You can depend on it. I wonder if Billy Hayes will sit back and say nothing while they attack our working conditions, pay, the NHS, transport and Education as he has done while his friends in the Labour Party did the same? If we really must have political parties, I'd like to see one looking after our interests for a change instead of fawning and cringing around the rich.
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!

"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."