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DOUBLE STANDARDS

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DOUBLE STANDARDS

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While at the moment i am not directly involved it has come to my attention that their is double standards in royal mail. The particular case in being is that the staff on permanent contracts be it full time or part time on these contacts are more accountable than those who do not!. WHY ? is it dumbing down the service we provide as the only benefit i can see for the introduction of walk sequencing is that and as such those who would not normally be given duties while incapable are performing these duties even though not capable ( Unable to speak never mind read english) while others are being suspended for trivial offences such as not being up to speed or unable to work unpaid overtime or even not delivering all door too door even though the non permanent contracts don't ever do them!.
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It really got me to start this topic in the way that a non contracted staff bought back several bags of mail the day after due delivery of mail while someone was threatened with suspension for not being able to work overtime due to pressing commitments!.
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It's because they want to p!ss pemanent staff off so much that they leave.
It's cheaper to employ new staff on temp p/t contracts - and to get rid off them.
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baldrick wrote:It's because they want to p!ss pemanent staff off so much that they leave.
It's cheaper to employ new staff on temp p/t contracts - and to get rid off them.
oh what a lovly place to work
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
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k979aaa wrote:It really got me to start this topic in the way that a non contracted staff bought back several bags of mail the day after due delivery of mail while someone was threatened with suspension for not being able to work overtime due to pressing commitments!.

Go see your Union rep if worried. You cannot be forced to work overtime !!!
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k979aaa wrote:
UNABLE TOO SPEAK NEVER MIND READ ENGLISH

This is racist and what is laughable from someone complaing about others linguistic competence,is the fact that your grammar is crap.
It should read "unable to speak" not "too speak".
Let the BNP on Question Time and the next thing you know they are on RMC.
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madmax99 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:It really got me to start this topic in the way that a non contracted staff bought back several bags of mail the day after due delivery of mail while someone was threatened with suspension for not being able to work overtime due to pressing commitments!.

Go see your Union rep if worried. You cannot be forced to work overtime !!!
It was not me but i will pass you message on to the afflicted party and thanks for your concern but it is weird that some staff without permanent contracts can do nothing wrong while others part-time or full-time are subject to the full force of the conduct code!. But is this illegal and as long as this continues what good name royalmail did have is being lost by employing those who cannot meet the standards demanded in the past of all those who did receive a permanent contract!. Is the whole exercise of walk sequencing just their to dumb down the service from where i am standing it is and the challenge for our union the CWU is how do we counter act this dumbing down of our job's and the nations postal service!.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
UNABLE TOO SPEAK NEVER MIND READ ENGLISH

This is racist and what is laughable from someone complaing about others linguistic competence,is the fact that your grammar is crap.
It should read "unable to speak" not "too speak".
Let the BNP on Question Time and the next thing you know they are on RMC.
So is yours to many spaces and you remind me of CANTYPEANDWILLSHOUT.
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k979aaa wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
UNABLE TOO SPEAK NEVER MIND READ ENGLISH

This is racist and what is laughable from someone complaing about others linguistic competence,is the fact that your grammar is crap.
It should read "unable to speak" not "too speak".
Let the BNP on Question Time and the next thing you know they are on RMC.
So is yours to many spaces and you remind me of CANTYPEANDWILLSHOUT.


why the fook is it racist if it's true,

we had 3 agency staff 1 Chinese and 2 from Congo all 3 tried to deliver 1 pretty simple walk but couldnt speak the fooking lingo FACT,

didnt complete and brought most of it back at about 4pm and dumped it outside closed office FACT.

But i made all that up cos i'm racist....btw dont pull me up on grammar cos i don't give a s**t, i can speak and read English
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clashcityrocker wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
UNABLE TOO SPEAK NEVER MIND READ ENGLISH

This is racist and what is laughable from someone complaing about others linguistic competence,is the fact that your grammar is crap.
It should read "unable to speak" not "too speak".
Let the BNP on Question Time and the next thing you know they are on RMC.
The fact is i don't give two hoots if they are pink black yellow or green which you must be and as for giving me lectures in grammar i don't care attack me i don't care but the customers will care if the people royalmail employ cannot do the job!. Next you will advocate that doctor's from Germany can come over here and practice and we seen what has happened this week!. I deliver to people of all colours and am proud too serve them your assumption i am a racist is unacceptable to me and all those who i so gladly serve!.
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As I understand it your post was about double standards - some people being allowed to get away with things others are not.
This happens regardless of someones ethnicity.
You chose to write about their linguistic competence IN CAPITAL LETTERS.This then turned it into a racist thread.
I don't think you should be allowed to do that unchallenged.
Of course doctors from Germany are allowed to practise medicine in this country. We are part of the European Union.
Are you suggesting that no German doctors should be allowed into the UK because of the actions of one person.
Again that is racist.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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clashcityrocker wrote:As I understand it your post was about double standards - some people being allowed to get away with things others are not.
This happens regardless of someones ethnicity.
You chose to write about their linguistic competence IN CAPITAL LETTERS.This then turned it into a racist thread.
I don't think you should be allowed to do that unchallenged.
Of course doctors from Germany are allowed to practise medicine in this country. We are part of the European Union.
Are you suggesting that no German doctors should be allowed into the UK because of the actions of one person.
Again that is racist.


Sorry Clash but YOU turned it into a race issue, how does writing in capitals make it a race issue...?

surely it would make it capitalist...

oh no that's something completely different :wave
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clashcityrocker wrote:As I understand it your post was about double standards - some people being allowed to get away with things others are not.
This happens regardless of someones ethnicity.
You chose to write about their linguistic competence IN CAPITAL LETTERS.This then turned it into a racist thread.
I don't think you should be allowed to do that unchallenged.
Of course doctors from Germany are allowed to practise medicine in this country. We are part of the European Union.
Are you suggesting that no German doctors should be allowed into the UK because of the actions of one person.
Again that is racist.
If you have not noticed virtually all the mail in the UK is written in ENGLISH one should have a good grounding in this language to do one's job in the postal service!. However if i went to Germany, India or France, China should they let me just go ahead and do (MY BEST) as it were how long would i last even though i would be incompetent to do the job of any postal workers in those nations i would let them all down badly!.
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Post by Pat Ostman »

Clash, sorry but you do seem a little hot-headed on this as far as I can see, the only racism in this country is towards the white working class nowadays.
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I know this has got off topic sometimes but it is about standards this is fundamental to us all. We have seen standards drop for some but for others they are accountable for any slight mistake or im-perceived mistake for anyone on a permanent contract!. THIS IS THE BATTLE GROUND FOR US ALL WE ALL MUST CHALLENGE THE COMPETENCE OF NEW STAFF WHO CANNOT DO THE BASICS OF THE JOB YES HELP THEM BUT BUT DO NOT DUMB US ALL DOWN WITH WALK SEQUENCING AND CDV'S FOR THAT IS THE BIG LIE THAT ROYALMAIL SEEK FOR US ALL!.