LTB 076/10 - NEC & National Representative Elections 2010
No. 076/10
Ref: TK/pm
Date: 22 January 2010
To: All Branches
Dear Colleague
NEC & National Representative Elections 2010
The NEC has agreed the election timetable and regulations for the 2010 NEC and National Representative Elections. The timetable for the elections is as follows:
Nominations Open: 1st March 2010
Nominations Close: 22nd March 2010 (14.00)
Accept Nominations: 25th March 2010 (14.00)
(PTS, Eng & Clerical only)
Despatch of Ballot Papers: 21st April 2010
Close of Ballot: 11th May 2010 (first post)
Result: 13th May 2010
The Election Regulations stipulate that a copy of the regulations for the elections must be distributed to all branches in advance of the nomination process. A copy of the Election Regulations is therefore enclosed and I would be grateful if you could ensure that these are brought to the attention of the membership.
The regulations will also be published on the CWU website and a copy will be issued to all candidates nominated to stand in the elections.
NEC Elections – Prize Draws
Branches are once again reminded that in order to protect the integrity of these very important national elections and more importantly, ensure that the union is legally compliant with the relevant legislation covering such elections, that NEC election prize draws should not be conducted under any circumstances unless written authorisation has been given by the Senior Deputy General Secretary.
Any enquiries regarding this LTB should be addressed to Senior Deputy General Secretary Department, CWU HQ, for the attention of Peter Metcalfe, Telephone: 0208 971 7368, Email: pmetcalfe@cwu.org.
Yours sincerely
Tony Kearns
Senior Deputy General Secretary
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Re: NEC & National Representative Elections 2010
COMMUNICATION WORKERS UNION
NATIONAL EXECUTIVE COUNCIL ELECTIONS 2010
NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE ELECTIONS 2010
ELECTION REGULATIONS
1. These regulations have been determined by the National Executive Council in accordance with the Rules of the Union to govern the election of National Executive Council members and National Representatives positions. The election will take place in Spring 2010 and the successful candidates will take up office following Annual Conference 2010 for a period of one year.
2. Nominations open on 1 March 2010. The Senior Deputy General Secretary will provide formal notice of when the election will take place.
3. Where Branches are entitled to nominate only a member from their own Branch, nomination forms will be supplied to all Branches who request them in writing. Completed nomination forms giving the biographical details, election address and a recent photo for the Branches candidate must be received by 14.00 on 22 March 2010 at CWU Head Office. Any nominations received after that date will not be accepted. Each Branch will be sent a letter confirming receipt of nomination forms.
4. Where Branches are entitled to nominate members from Branches other than their own, nomination forms will be distributed direct to these Branches for completion and return to CWU Head Office by 14.00 on 22 March 2010. Members who are nominated as a candidate will be sent a letter confirming receipt of a nomination, and the appropriate forms to be completed giving their biographical details and the election address. Completed forms for biographical details and the election address, together with a recent photograph must he received by 14.00 on 25 March 2010 by the Senior Deputy General Secretary CWU, 150 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1RX. Any biographical details or election addresses or photographs received after that date will not be accepted.
5. All candidates shall have the right to prepare an election address of not more than 300 words and to submit a recent photograph. The content of the election address is the responsibility of the individual candidate and the Union will not be held responsible for any defamatory or libellous statements contained in the address.
6. The biographical details, election address and individual photographs for all candidates will be published and distributed with the ballot papers to all relevant members. Other than Branch publicity restricted to the membership of their individual Branch any other publicity or canvassing such as handouts, posters etc. for any or all candidates will be the responsibility of the individual candidate who shall fund any such publicity.
7. The method of recommending support for candidates to its own Branch members will be a matter for each Branch. No Branch Officer or other workplace representative shall have any responsibility for the circulation of publicity for any candidate other than the candidate recommended by the Branch. All material produced by the Branch must include the name of the Branch and the printers name and address where appropriate.
8. The Independent Person, in accordance with all legislation, designated as the printer of all ballot material is under instruction to refer any request from a candidate or Branch to undertake printing on their behalf, to the Independent Scrutineer and General Secretary. Printing for a Branch, or candidate, can only be undertaken by the Independent Person with the written authority of both the Independent Scrutineer and the General Secretary.
9. Candidates may not use information held by the union on its national records for workplace or home addresses for members for the purposes of distributing any publicity material. Any complaint that a member has used such information may be investigated by the Independent Scrutineer, and if as a result, the complaint is upheld, may take appropriate action in accordance with para.18 of these Regulations.
10. Voting will be by individual member by the marking of a ballot paper by the member entitled to vote. The ballot will be fully Postal in accordance with current legislation.
11. Each member entitled to vote shall be allowed to do so without interference, constraint or undue pressure, in secret, and so far as is reasonably practicable, without incurring any direct cost to the member
12. So far as is reasonably practicable, all members entitled to vote will receive a ballot paper at the address notified in writing to the CWU. The ballot papers will be dispatched, so far as is reasonably practicable, from 21 April 2010. For votes to be valid, members must mark the ballot paper in accordance with the instruction, and return it sealed in the prepaid envelope provided to the address nominated by the Independent Scrutineer and appearing on the envelope.
13. All eligible members included in the Register maintained by the Union as at 19 March 2010 are entitled to vote. Whilst every effort will be made so far as is reasonably practicable to ensure that each member will receive a ballot paper through the post, the requirement of the security of the ballot prevents the issue of a second ballot paper to a member in any circumstance.
14. The last time for receipt of ballot papers at the address nominated by the Scrutineer will be first post 11 May 2010. Any ballot papers received after that time will not be counted.
15. Returned ballot papers will remain unopened in their envelopes until the close of ballot. Two lay CWU members (who do not hold any elected or appointed position) will be selected as observers. The Observers together with the Senior Deputy General Secretary will attend the start of the count of the ballot papers. Their sole responsibility will be to ensure that the envelopes are unopened prior to the commencement of the count, after which the Scrutineer shall arrange to count the number of valid votes cast for each candidate. The Scrutineer will declare the results of the election on 13 May 2010 or as soon as possible thereafter.
16. The CWU is committed to free and democratic elections and will actively oppose racism and sexism and all forms of discrimination based on race, creed, religion, age, disability, sex or sexual orientation in industry, the Union and Society. Members and candidates must not behave in a discriminatory manner or circulate any material that may be offensive to any other member or candidate.
17. No full time officer of the Union as defined under the rules, shall publicly endorse, at any official Union organised meeting or conference or in writing, any candidate for election.
18. A member, candidate or Branch may make a complaint regarding the ballot on the grounds that there has been a breach of Union Rules or of these Regulations. The complaint must be submitted in writing to the Independent Scrutineer no later than four weeks of the declaration of the results. The Scrutineer shall investigate the complaint, and if as a result, the complaint is upheld may declare the election void or the election of any particular person void or any appropriate candidate disqualified. In addition they may invalidate any vote or any number of votes previously counted, or include any vote or any number of votes not previously counted and thereby re-determine the results of the election. The decision of the Scrutineer shall be final and binding.
19. These Regulations shall be distributed to all Branches in advance of the nomination process for the purpose of being brought to the attention of the membership. The Regulations shall be sent to each candidate on receipt of their nomination, and to any other individual member who applies to either the Union or to Electoral Reform Services Limited.
20. Any matter not covered by the Rules of the CWU, or by a decision of the NEC prior to the ballot, shall be determined by the Scrutineer.
21. The Scrutineer appointed in accordance with the Trade Union and Labour Relations Act 1992, as amended, shall be Electoral Reform Services Limited, The Election Centre, 33 Clarendon Road London N8 0NW. In addition to carrying out duties in accordance with the Act, the Scrutineer shall make whatever enquiries or investigations they consider appropriate in order to ensure that, as far as possible, the ballot has been carried out in accordance with these Regulations. The decision of the Scrutineer on any matter in these Regulations shall be final.
Candidates Guidelines
CWU NATIONAL EXECUTIVE COUNCIL AND NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE ELECTIONS 2010
Please Note: That in line with the policies of the union, where they have not already done so all candidates will be required to undertake CWU Equality & Diversity training.
Candidates Guidelines:
Each member nominated, as a candidate will be entitled to complete the appropriate forms giving the following biographical information, up to a maximum of 100 words, for inclusion in the booklet sent to every member with their ballot paper.
- Branch
- Date started employment relevant to CWU
- Date of joining CWU (or relevant predecessor union)
- Job Title
- Union Record/Other relevant service to the Union and Labour Movement
This should include information on positions held in Branch, District, Region NEC etc. together with appropriate dates and information on representation at Conferences e.g. TUC, PTTI, C.I. UNI, membership of other unions, political parties, any education or training relevant to this election.
Election Address
Each candidate is entitled to submit an election address of up to 300 words. Words in excess of 300 will be deleted after the 300th word. The election address can be submitted on disc or by e-mail to pmetcalfe@cwu.org. The preferred format for this is MS WORD.
Alternatively the election address should be typed or written in clear manuscript and signed by the candidate when submitting to the union. Please do not send photocopies to avoid misreading of your statement. Any errors will be reproduced — so proof read your text carefully prior to submitting it.
Use of formats such as underlining, text in bold, bullet points etc. may be used and it is the responsibility of the candidate to ensure that any instructions regarding the layout are clear.
The CWU cannot take any responsibility for text that cannot be read, or instructions on layout that cannot be understood.
Photograph
Each candidate is entitled to submit a recent photograph that will be printed with the election address. The photograph should be black and white and have head and shoulders of the candidate only. Photographs containing more than one person are not acceptable, and will not be printed in the booklet. Candidates should note that black and white photographs will reproduce to a higher quality in the booklet, and the CWU cannot take any responsibility for inferior quality if a colour photograph is supplied. Photographs must be received by the CWU by the appropriate closing date for acceptance of nominations and cannot be returned after the ballot.
Please note: Instructions to refer to those printed in previous years, photocopies of a previous election address or extracts cut out from printed copy in previous elections, including photographs, are not acceptable, and only the submissions received for this election will be printed.
In accordance with current legislation, the CWU shall secure that no modification is made to any election address other than where it is necessarily incidental to the method adopted for producing the copy.
NATIONAL EXECUTIVE COUNCIL ELECTIONS 2010
NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE ELECTIONS 2010
ELECTION REGULATIONS
1. These regulations have been determined by the National Executive Council in accordance with the Rules of the Union to govern the election of National Executive Council members and National Representatives positions. The election will take place in Spring 2010 and the successful candidates will take up office following Annual Conference 2010 for a period of one year.
2. Nominations open on 1 March 2010. The Senior Deputy General Secretary will provide formal notice of when the election will take place.
3. Where Branches are entitled to nominate only a member from their own Branch, nomination forms will be supplied to all Branches who request them in writing. Completed nomination forms giving the biographical details, election address and a recent photo for the Branches candidate must be received by 14.00 on 22 March 2010 at CWU Head Office. Any nominations received after that date will not be accepted. Each Branch will be sent a letter confirming receipt of nomination forms.
4. Where Branches are entitled to nominate members from Branches other than their own, nomination forms will be distributed direct to these Branches for completion and return to CWU Head Office by 14.00 on 22 March 2010. Members who are nominated as a candidate will be sent a letter confirming receipt of a nomination, and the appropriate forms to be completed giving their biographical details and the election address. Completed forms for biographical details and the election address, together with a recent photograph must he received by 14.00 on 25 March 2010 by the Senior Deputy General Secretary CWU, 150 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1RX. Any biographical details or election addresses or photographs received after that date will not be accepted.
5. All candidates shall have the right to prepare an election address of not more than 300 words and to submit a recent photograph. The content of the election address is the responsibility of the individual candidate and the Union will not be held responsible for any defamatory or libellous statements contained in the address.
6. The biographical details, election address and individual photographs for all candidates will be published and distributed with the ballot papers to all relevant members. Other than Branch publicity restricted to the membership of their individual Branch any other publicity or canvassing such as handouts, posters etc. for any or all candidates will be the responsibility of the individual candidate who shall fund any such publicity.
7. The method of recommending support for candidates to its own Branch members will be a matter for each Branch. No Branch Officer or other workplace representative shall have any responsibility for the circulation of publicity for any candidate other than the candidate recommended by the Branch. All material produced by the Branch must include the name of the Branch and the printers name and address where appropriate.
8. The Independent Person, in accordance with all legislation, designated as the printer of all ballot material is under instruction to refer any request from a candidate or Branch to undertake printing on their behalf, to the Independent Scrutineer and General Secretary. Printing for a Branch, or candidate, can only be undertaken by the Independent Person with the written authority of both the Independent Scrutineer and the General Secretary.
9. Candidates may not use information held by the union on its national records for workplace or home addresses for members for the purposes of distributing any publicity material. Any complaint that a member has used such information may be investigated by the Independent Scrutineer, and if as a result, the complaint is upheld, may take appropriate action in accordance with para.18 of these Regulations.
10. Voting will be by individual member by the marking of a ballot paper by the member entitled to vote. The ballot will be fully Postal in accordance with current legislation.
11. Each member entitled to vote shall be allowed to do so without interference, constraint or undue pressure, in secret, and so far as is reasonably practicable, without incurring any direct cost to the member
12. So far as is reasonably practicable, all members entitled to vote will receive a ballot paper at the address notified in writing to the CWU. The ballot papers will be dispatched, so far as is reasonably practicable, from 21 April 2010. For votes to be valid, members must mark the ballot paper in accordance with the instruction, and return it sealed in the prepaid envelope provided to the address nominated by the Independent Scrutineer and appearing on the envelope.
13. All eligible members included in the Register maintained by the Union as at 19 March 2010 are entitled to vote. Whilst every effort will be made so far as is reasonably practicable to ensure that each member will receive a ballot paper through the post, the requirement of the security of the ballot prevents the issue of a second ballot paper to a member in any circumstance.
14. The last time for receipt of ballot papers at the address nominated by the Scrutineer will be first post 11 May 2010. Any ballot papers received after that time will not be counted.
15. Returned ballot papers will remain unopened in their envelopes until the close of ballot. Two lay CWU members (who do not hold any elected or appointed position) will be selected as observers. The Observers together with the Senior Deputy General Secretary will attend the start of the count of the ballot papers. Their sole responsibility will be to ensure that the envelopes are unopened prior to the commencement of the count, after which the Scrutineer shall arrange to count the number of valid votes cast for each candidate. The Scrutineer will declare the results of the election on 13 May 2010 or as soon as possible thereafter.
16. The CWU is committed to free and democratic elections and will actively oppose racism and sexism and all forms of discrimination based on race, creed, religion, age, disability, sex or sexual orientation in industry, the Union and Society. Members and candidates must not behave in a discriminatory manner or circulate any material that may be offensive to any other member or candidate.
17. No full time officer of the Union as defined under the rules, shall publicly endorse, at any official Union organised meeting or conference or in writing, any candidate for election.
18. A member, candidate or Branch may make a complaint regarding the ballot on the grounds that there has been a breach of Union Rules or of these Regulations. The complaint must be submitted in writing to the Independent Scrutineer no later than four weeks of the declaration of the results. The Scrutineer shall investigate the complaint, and if as a result, the complaint is upheld may declare the election void or the election of any particular person void or any appropriate candidate disqualified. In addition they may invalidate any vote or any number of votes previously counted, or include any vote or any number of votes not previously counted and thereby re-determine the results of the election. The decision of the Scrutineer shall be final and binding.
19. These Regulations shall be distributed to all Branches in advance of the nomination process for the purpose of being brought to the attention of the membership. The Regulations shall be sent to each candidate on receipt of their nomination, and to any other individual member who applies to either the Union or to Electoral Reform Services Limited.
20. Any matter not covered by the Rules of the CWU, or by a decision of the NEC prior to the ballot, shall be determined by the Scrutineer.
21. The Scrutineer appointed in accordance with the Trade Union and Labour Relations Act 1992, as amended, shall be Electoral Reform Services Limited, The Election Centre, 33 Clarendon Road London N8 0NW. In addition to carrying out duties in accordance with the Act, the Scrutineer shall make whatever enquiries or investigations they consider appropriate in order to ensure that, as far as possible, the ballot has been carried out in accordance with these Regulations. The decision of the Scrutineer on any matter in these Regulations shall be final.
Candidates Guidelines
CWU NATIONAL EXECUTIVE COUNCIL AND NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE ELECTIONS 2010
Please Note: That in line with the policies of the union, where they have not already done so all candidates will be required to undertake CWU Equality & Diversity training.
Candidates Guidelines:
Each member nominated, as a candidate will be entitled to complete the appropriate forms giving the following biographical information, up to a maximum of 100 words, for inclusion in the booklet sent to every member with their ballot paper.
- Branch
- Date started employment relevant to CWU
- Date of joining CWU (or relevant predecessor union)
- Job Title
- Union Record/Other relevant service to the Union and Labour Movement
This should include information on positions held in Branch, District, Region NEC etc. together with appropriate dates and information on representation at Conferences e.g. TUC, PTTI, C.I. UNI, membership of other unions, political parties, any education or training relevant to this election.
Election Address
Each candidate is entitled to submit an election address of up to 300 words. Words in excess of 300 will be deleted after the 300th word. The election address can be submitted on disc or by e-mail to pmetcalfe@cwu.org. The preferred format for this is MS WORD.
Alternatively the election address should be typed or written in clear manuscript and signed by the candidate when submitting to the union. Please do not send photocopies to avoid misreading of your statement. Any errors will be reproduced — so proof read your text carefully prior to submitting it.
Use of formats such as underlining, text in bold, bullet points etc. may be used and it is the responsibility of the candidate to ensure that any instructions regarding the layout are clear.
The CWU cannot take any responsibility for text that cannot be read, or instructions on layout that cannot be understood.
Photograph
Each candidate is entitled to submit a recent photograph that will be printed with the election address. The photograph should be black and white and have head and shoulders of the candidate only. Photographs containing more than one person are not acceptable, and will not be printed in the booklet. Candidates should note that black and white photographs will reproduce to a higher quality in the booklet, and the CWU cannot take any responsibility for inferior quality if a colour photograph is supplied. Photographs must be received by the CWU by the appropriate closing date for acceptance of nominations and cannot be returned after the ballot.
Please note: Instructions to refer to those printed in previous years, photocopies of a previous election address or extracts cut out from printed copy in previous elections, including photographs, are not acceptable, and only the submissions received for this election will be printed.
In accordance with current legislation, the CWU shall secure that no modification is made to any election address other than where it is necessarily incidental to the method adopted for producing the copy.
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Big Daz
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I assume there will be a rush of RMC posters asking to be nominated? 
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not as easy as that big D, as you well know.....
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This may seem a bit off topic, and to be honest I didn't read most of the first two posts, but can any one tell me if it is possible to put forward a vote of no confidence in our current leadership? Specifically, I am from the counters section, therefore I am talking about our National Officer. 
More and more I am seeing that this person is just a plaything of POL management and that there has been no true negotiations going on concerning recent agreements. Terms and conditions have eroded at an alarming rate under this Officer. Seems he has just bent over the arm of a chair and given them two good coughs, if you catch my drift.
More and more I am seeing that this person is just a plaything of POL management and that there has been no true negotiations going on concerning recent agreements. Terms and conditions have eroded at an alarming rate under this Officer. Seems he has just bent over the arm of a chair and given them two good coughs, if you catch my drift.
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Big Daz
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wranglered wrote:not as easy as that big D, as you well know.....
Yes it is, look at my exact statement
I said asking to be nominated, I didnt say securing a nominationto the NEC.
Anybody can ask, but i do understand your point, although I am not aware of any body other than the current PEC members from the branch seeking nomination is the last couple of years.
Anyway branch elections are very exciting this year, the Political Officer election will be truly exciting, I dont ever recall that positon having more than one nominee.
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BELIAL
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Re: NEC & National Representative Elections 2010
Please nominate ME .I've got a aBig Daz wrote:I assume there will be a rush of RMC posters asking to be nominated?
few things I'd like to say to people face to face
Bye
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SecondedBELIAL wrote:Please nominate ME .I've got a aBig Daz wrote:I assume there will be a rush of RMC posters asking to be nominated?
few things I'd like to say to people face to face
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dvbuk55
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I don't assume but I sincerely hope there is. Like I've said before it takes a particular kind of person.Big Daz wrote:I assume there will be a rush of RMC posters asking to be nominated?
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To be normainated for the postal execuitve you first have secure the support from your Branch normally by the way of your Annual general meeting.
Then to be confident of getting elected you have to in the main be widely known in the union , as Branch"s support candidates in the main from their track record and knowledge of that indivdual past record on Branch"s.
The last 10 years of the Postal Execuitive council elections have been mainly dominated by a North versus South split. so some get on based on a southern alliance and some on a northern alliance. However over the last 3 years we have tried to breakdown that split by talks and voting for candidates not based their record on polices rather then on where they come from.
For Royal Mail chat posters to get elceted then you will need a wider base of support then just this site I am affaid and will have to come out and name yourself and reveal you identity.
Daz the problem you will have if you wanted to stand is that you already have a very talented PEC member from your Branch and most Branch!s dont like supporting two people for the PEC from the same Branch.
However this year is going to be a big year with a very complex agreement . The last time we had an a year like that was the Way forward when a number of PEC members were thrown of the PEC for voting yes to it and replaced by wait for it Dave Ward , Bob Gibson and Noel Mclean who are all in the negotiations on this deal.
The world has turned.
Then to be confident of getting elected you have to in the main be widely known in the union , as Branch"s support candidates in the main from their track record and knowledge of that indivdual past record on Branch"s.
The last 10 years of the Postal Execuitive council elections have been mainly dominated by a North versus South split. so some get on based on a southern alliance and some on a northern alliance. However over the last 3 years we have tried to breakdown that split by talks and voting for candidates not based their record on polices rather then on where they come from.
For Royal Mail chat posters to get elceted then you will need a wider base of support then just this site I am affaid and will have to come out and name yourself and reveal you identity.
Daz the problem you will have if you wanted to stand is that you already have a very talented PEC member from your Branch and most Branch!s dont like supporting two people for the PEC from the same Branch.
However this year is going to be a big year with a very complex agreement . The last time we had an a year like that was the Way forward when a number of PEC members were thrown of the PEC for voting yes to it and replaced by wait for it Dave Ward , Bob Gibson and Noel Mclean who are all in the negotiations on this deal.
The world has turned.
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"The last 10 years of the Postal Execuitive council elections have been mainly dominated by a North versus South split."
Just out of curiosity and an inbuilt chip on my shoulder.
Is that North of England versus South of England?.
Just out of curiosity and an inbuilt chip on my shoulder.
Is that North of England versus South of England?.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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BELIAL
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All my hopes and dreams ground to dust 
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wranglered
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no it hasn't...nothing has changed except a few of us can reach a wider audience to express concerns on what the CWU VIP's are doing to the terms and conditions of its members....or can we even do that?The truth! wrote:To be normainated for the postal execuitve you first have secure the support from your Branch normally by the way of your Annual general meeting.
exactly...it is designed that way to keep away those who don't play the party (employer) tune....
Then to be confident of getting elected you have to in the main be widely known in the union , as Branch"s support candidates in the main from their track record and knowledge of that indivdual past record on Branch"s.
ditto...no chance for any real activist..
The last 10 years of the Postal Execuitive council elections have been mainly dominated by a North versus South split. so some get on based on a southern alliance and some on a northern alliance. However over the last 3 years we have tried to breakdown that split by talks and voting for candidates not based their record on polices rather then on where they come from.
bollocks...I can remember sitting in a meeting where a Divisional Rep was threatening legal action against Northerners because someone had the audacity to call him a Pearly King!
For Royal Mail chat posters to get elceted then you will need a wider base of support then just this site I am affaid and will have to come out and name yourself and reveal you identity.
just like you have done....not...but there again you have your job for life don't you?
Daz the problem you will have if you wanted to stand is that you already have a very talented PEC member from your Branch and most Branch!s dont like supporting two people for the PEC from the same Branch.
very talented PEC member eh? well let's see what he comes up with after all this time tucked up in nice warm hotel rooms....ever wondered how Lovejoy gets the Keenlyside report? I don't....
However this year is going to be a big year with a very complex agreement . The last time we had an a year like that was the Way forward when a number of PEC members were thrown of the PEC for voting yes to it and replaced by wait for it Dave Ward , Bob Gibson and Noel Mclean who are all in the negotiations on this deal.
will history repeat itself? will the average member see through the records of these leaders of men? fat chance....
The world has turned.
very complex agreement my arse.....
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Big Daz
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Re: NEC & National Representative Elections 2010
ThE Truth
I have no desire to go PEC, far from it!!!
Im winding down on union work and winding up on political activism.
Lots to do at local level, the DOM is withdrawn next week to look at savings and to meet with his new boss. He will be reporting direct to the area delivery lead rather than the cluster manager. Tommrow is the start of week 2 of the walk sequenced mail trial uisng the iLSM at the mail centre. Delivery method revision due September as well make for a very busy year ahead.
Are their savings to be had? Yes there are, but they need to be done in the contex of what comes out of any new agreeement in terms of the length of the working week, work rates and door to door into workload. Also there is the matter of 1800 new delivery points,to make savings anywhere near the 10% target and absorb 1800 houses as they come in to play will be tricky.
I have no desire to go PEC, far from it!!!
Im winding down on union work and winding up on political activism.
Lots to do at local level, the DOM is withdrawn next week to look at savings and to meet with his new boss. He will be reporting direct to the area delivery lead rather than the cluster manager. Tommrow is the start of week 2 of the walk sequenced mail trial uisng the iLSM at the mail centre. Delivery method revision due September as well make for a very busy year ahead.
Are their savings to be had? Yes there are, but they need to be done in the contex of what comes out of any new agreeement in terms of the length of the working week, work rates and door to door into workload. Also there is the matter of 1800 new delivery points,to make savings anywhere near the 10% target and absorb 1800 houses as they come in to play will be tricky.
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Re: NEC & National Representative Elections 2010
Well thank you for explaining the rigmarole for gaining entry to the inner circle dingo. When I said it took a particular kind of person to go forward for union elections it wasn't exactly complimentary - it's far too inbred for my liking and too political and is less about the membership and more about ego.
Just as a matter of interest why the name change? Do you feel that being the truth makes it the truth?
Just as a matter of interest why the name change? Do you feel that being the truth makes it the truth?