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D2Ds and the Environment

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D2Ds and the Environment

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Given the deteriorating state of the environment I find it really disturbing delivering junk mail. Whatever arrives in my own letterbox gets recycled immediately. Whenever I buy Radio Times, the first thing I do is hold it up by its cover and empty all the junk straight into the recycling bin. I have a sign on my door saying No Junk Mail. Recycling is just the tip of the iceberg that needs to be done. I may not do much for the environment, but I do try to work towards a better relationship with it. Yet as a postman, delivering D2Ds, I become an active polluter. I hate doing this. And all of us together pollute massively - tons and tons and tons every day!

Do we have to deliver D2Ds? Is there a legal basis for this? Does anyone know whether we have the right to refuse? What would happen if we said, I'm doing this for the environment, and refused to deliver D2Ds?
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Ok then everyone,tell me exactly what is 'junk' mail.
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Unsoliceted advertising , leaflets or letters. maybe
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valute wrote: Do we have to deliver D2Ds? Is there a legal basis for this? Does anyone know whether we have the right to refuse? What would happen if we said, I'm doing this for the environment, and refused to deliver D2Ds?
Sacked for willful delay probably. It's the same as you saying "I'm not delivering x letter". It's still considered mail, even if it is rubbish.

Junk mail in my opinion is anything that doesn't have an address on.
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valute wrote:Given the deteriorating state of the environment I find it really disturbing delivering junk mail. Whatever arrives in my own letterbox gets recycled immediately. Whenever I buy Radio Times, the first thing I do is hold it up by its cover and empty all the junk straight into the recycling bin. I have a sign on my door saying No Junk Mail. Recycling is just the tip of the iceberg that needs to be done. I may not do much for the environment, but I do try to work towards a better relationship with it. Yet as a postman, delivering D2Ds, I become an active polluter. I hate doing this. And all of us together pollute massively - tons and tons and tons every day!

Do we have to deliver D2Ds? Is there a legal basis for this? Does anyone know whether we have the right to refuse? What would happen if we said, I'm doing this for the environment, and refused to deliver D2Ds?

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gj1023 wrote:Unsoliceted advertising , leaflets or letters. maybe
Why,you get a good deal out of it then it aint junk is it.
What is bad for you could be good for me or your neighbour.
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For the record,did you know that the longest interest free credit card ever,if you changed your balance over to them was sent by 'junk' mail!

How many people would that of helped?
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POSTMAN wrote:
gj1023 wrote:Unsoliceted advertising , leaflets or letters. maybe
Why,you get a good deal out of it then it aint junk is it.
What is bad for you could be good for me or your neighbour.

Lol I was just answering your question based on what customers/ people say to me. Was not saying anything about a good deal or not
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you do know that global warming et al is a pile of s**t don't you?

recycling will not save the earth


the planet is doing what is always does and will do whatever we do

by all means do what you think is right but don't expect it to save the world
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gj1023 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
gj1023 wrote:Unsoliceted advertising , leaflets or letters. maybe
Why,you get a good deal out of it then it aint junk is it.
What is bad for you could be good for me or your neighbour.

Lol I was just answering your question based on what customers/ people say to me. Was not saying anything about a good deal or not
Sorry, :crazy: 2 posts weren't exactly aimed at you just the thread in general.
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POSTMAN wrote:Ok then everyone,tell me exactly what is 'junk' mail.


From the sender's point of view and after all the're the ones that pay RM there is no such thing as junk mail.
BTW did you see the mailsort charity letters with the pound coin in them? :d'oh!
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fishtank wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:Ok then everyone,tell me exactly what is 'junk' mail.


From the sender's point of view and after all the're the ones that pay RM there is no such thing as junk mail.
BTW did you see the mailsort charity letters with the pound coin in them? :d'oh!
Pound coin!! :shock: Seen a penny and a 5p,but a fecking pound! :crazy:
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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POSTMAN wrote:
fishtank wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:Ok then everyone,tell me exactly what is 'junk' mail.


From the sender's point of view and after all the're the ones that pay RM there is no such thing as junk mail.
BTW did you see the mailsort charity letters with the pound coin in them? :d'oh!
Pound coin!! :shock: Seen a penny and a 5p,but a fecking pound! :crazy:

Pound coin and it was real,i checked :oops: I only had 2 for my walk but it may have started out for every door.Damm mailcentre staff... :chuckle
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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At last, someone who agrees with me on this. Junk mail is anything that people do not ask for and which goes straight into the bin. There are a number of euphemisms for it: "unsolicited mail", "unaddressed mail", "d2d", "household" and one I heard on radio 4 this week, "discretionary mail". It's all rubbish and it should be illegal, and whatever Royal Mail or the union say about it, a mail company that relies on it for their profit is failing in its business. We should be starting a campaign to have it banned. If you don't know the name of a person living in a house you shouldn't be shovelling mail through their letterbox. Period. The union should be fighting for a proper living wage for its members without the need to fall back upon this antisocial and environmentally damaging trade. Read here for more: http://hubpages.com/hub/You-Call-It-Junk-Mail