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Park and Loop Nationwide trials to begin April 2010

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pickaname
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Park and Loop Nationwide trials to begin April 2010

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Been going round our office that a park and loop trial is to begin in April of this year.

Essentially its 2 deliveries share a van and take care of everything - specials, large packets, collections, the lot.

Could be bullshit but it came from a manager involved in planning georoute and other crap so take it however you like.
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pickaname wrote:
WILL be bullshit BECAUSE it came from a manager involved in planning georoute
edited for truth.
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pickaname wrote:Been going round our office that a park and loop trial is to begin in April of this year.

Essentially its 2 deliveries share a van and take care of everything - specials, large packets, collections, the lot.

Could be bullshit but it came from a manager involved in planning georoute and other crap so take it however you like.


What a load of crap , how can you plan from the inside ? you need to be out there and have done it to know this is going to work.On that point didn't theytry this before and it didn't work then?
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why have all the doms been on a course in harrogate then regarding the park and loop this week its true i tell you april is the planned roll out
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woofwoof wrote:why have all the doms been on a course in harrogate then regarding the park and loop this week its true i tell you april is the planned roll out
I can tell you now this is NOT bullcrap - it is in, and it is going to be the new delivery model, like it or not. I would, if I were you, avoid the park and loop like the plague and stay on a town delivery - I won't go into detail but you'll be working a lot harder for the same pay.
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dvbuk55 wrote:
woofwoof wrote:why have all the doms been on a course in harrogate then regarding the park and loop this week its true i tell you april is the planned roll out
I can tell you now this is NOT bullcrap - it is in, and it is going to be the new delivery model, like it or not. I would, if I were you, avoid the park and loop like the plague and stay on a town delivery - I won't go into detail but you'll be working a lot harder for the same pay.
it was all doms from the east yorkshire region as far as i know at least that attended this course
pickaname
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dvbuk55 wrote:
woofwoof wrote:why have all the doms been on a course in harrogate then regarding the park and loop this week its true i tell you april is the planned roll out
I can tell you now this is NOT bullcrap - it is in, and it is going to be the new delivery model, like it or not. I would, if I were you, avoid the park and loop like the plague and stay on a town delivery - I won't go into detail but you'll be working a lot harder for the same pay.
What do you mean by town delivery? Were one of the most densely populated cities in the country and were supposedly trialing P&L outside of 1 mile radius and HCT within a mile from DO for all walks.

Thats the word round the campfire anyway.
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This is all part and parcel :left: gould man alive :chuckle of the already done and dusted agreement that shapes the way forward (now thats a word i haven't hurd for ages) come 22 Jan 2010 i.e tomorrow.
Sorry chaps and chapesses but park and loops are on the cards, time to get your full office resign into play
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pickaname wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
woofwoof wrote:why have all the doms been on a course in harrogate then regarding the park and loop this week its true i tell you april is the planned roll out
I can tell you now this is NOT bullcrap - it is in, and it is going to be the new delivery model, like it or not. I would, if I were you, avoid the park and loop like the plague and stay on a town delivery - I won't go into detail but you'll be working a lot harder for the same pay.
What do you mean by town delivery? Were one of the most densely populated cities in the country and were supposedly trialing P&L outside of 1 mile radius and HCT within a mile from DO for all walks.

Thats the word round the campfire anyway.
The word is right, I can't tell from a post where you are based, but it is the model to convert to P&L outside of 1 mile from the delivery office and to HCT within a mile. However, I don't believe that this will be rolled out all at once and so for most on here there will be a bedding in period during which time it may well be all change.
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dvbuk55 wrote:
pickaname wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
woofwoof wrote:why have all the doms been on a course in harrogate then regarding the park and loop this week its true i tell you april is the planned roll out
I can tell you now this is NOT bullcrap - it is in, and it is going to be the new delivery model, like it or not. I would, if I were you, avoid the park and loop like the plague and stay on a town delivery - I won't go into detail but you'll be working a lot harder for the same pay.
What do you mean by town delivery? Were one of the most densely populated cities in the country and were supposedly trialing P&L outside of 1 mile radius and HCT within a mile from DO for all walks.

Thats the word round the campfire anyway.
The word is right, I can't tell from a post where you are based, but it is the model to convert to P&L outside of 1 mile from the delivery office and to HCT within a mile. However, I don't believe that this will be rolled out all at once and so for most on here there will be a bedding in period during which time it may well be all change.

Portsmouth is rumoured to be trialing this new Delivery model. 100% town deliveries.
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well thats good :wave
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pickaname wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
pickaname wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
woofwoof wrote:why have all the doms been on a course in harrogate then regarding the park and loop this week its true i tell you april is the planned roll out
I can tell you now this is NOT bullcrap - it is in, and it is going to be the new delivery model, like it or not. I would, if I were you, avoid the park and loop like the plague and stay on a town delivery - I won't go into detail but you'll be working a lot harder for the same pay.
What do you mean by town delivery? Were one of the most densely populated cities in the country and were supposedly trialing P&L outside of 1 mile radius and HCT within a mile from DO for all walks.

Thats the word round the campfire anyway.
The word is right, I can't tell from a post where you are based, but it is the model to convert to P&L outside of 1 mile from the delivery office and to HCT within a mile. However, I don't believe that this will be rolled out all at once and so for most on here there will be a bedding in period during which time it may well be all change.

Portsmouth is rumoured to be trialing this new Delivery model. 100% town deliveries.
The criterion is not whether it is a rural or urban area but whether you are within or without 1 mile of the delivery office. The idea is to get rid of bulk/parcel duties and to extend the delivery span from 3.5 to 4.5, which multiplied by 2 means an additional 2 hours on each P&L delivery - there is as far as I know nothing to extend the town (within a mile) delivery from 3.5 hence my advice to take a town walk, same money an hours less delivery.
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dvbuk55 wrote:
The criterion is not whether it is a rural or urban area but whether you are within or without 1 mile of the delivery office. The idea is to get rid of bulk/parcel duties and to extend the delivery span from 3.5 to 4.5, which multiplied by 2 means an additional 2 hours on each P&L delivery - there is as far as I know nothing to extend the town (within a mile) delivery from 3.5 hence my advice to take a town walk, same money an hours less delivery.
So are you saying that the actual walking part of the deliveries stay at 3.5 but they are allocating each person in the van an extra hour to do the large parcels, specials, bulk calls and travelling from different loops?
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citypostie wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
The criterion is not whether it is a rural or urban area but whether you are within or without 1 mile of the delivery office. The idea is to get rid of bulk/parcel duties and to extend the delivery span from 3.5 to 4.5, which multiplied by 2 means an additional 2 hours on each P&L delivery - there is as far as I know nothing to extend the town (within a mile) delivery from 3.5 hence my advice to take a town walk, same money an hours less delivery.
So are you saying that the actual walking part of the deliveries stay at 3.5 but they are allocating each person in the van an extra hour to do the large parcels, specials, bulk calls and travelling from different loops?
In a nutshell - yes.
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Wrong and wrong and wrong again. The duties will be until 3 o clock, doesnt matter if they add 1 hours extra to every duty or 5 hours extra, its until 3 o clock. And see those peeps running round like fools, lets see them do it with either a HCT or a golf trolley (bags will become obsolete). At 2.45 its head back to the office, the manager can sort the rest out in any way he so chooses.