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Who gets to vote on this agreement?

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mclovin
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Who gets to vote on this agreement?

Post by mclovin »

If this is the case:

Withdrawl of D2D payment

D2D cap lifted

Saturday same as week day's time wise

36 hour week

Then surely Mail Centre staff cant be balloted for it, it has to be delivery staff only.
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Post by itllnottouchyou »

where did this come from mclovin?
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From the thread "22 Jan big news day"
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Post by itllnottouchyou »

are they still gonna pay us for mail releifs? they will slaughter us wi D2D if this is the case and my office works till 3 on sat anyway
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I would assume the 36 hours would not be including meal reliefs, it would actually be the hours worked.

From what I was told, it will be the old "one off payment" for the cessation of D2D payments.
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This wud b pure madness if this is agreed by the union. they on f**k*n' hard drugs or what? Where is this info? wanna see it for myself. :mfo
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Punk wrote:I would assume the 36 hours would not be including meal reliefs, it would actually be the hours worked.

From what I was told, it will be the old "one off payment" for the cessation of D2D payments.
As I understand it we would still get the meal breaks but we would not get paid for them like we do now.
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As I understand it we would still get the meal breaks but we would not get paid for them like we do now.[/quote]

Whats the point of that then?
We do 40 hours now minus say 40mins times 5 days which is 2hrs 20mins which means a net hourage of 37hrs 40mins so (if it is going to be a 36hr week) we only get a weekly reduction of 1hr 40mins!! :d'oh!
It would just encourage those that don't take breaks now to run around even more! :arrrghhh
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Punk wrote:I would assume the 36 hours would not be including meal reliefs, it would actually be the hours worked.

From what I was told, it will be the old "one off payment" for the cessation of D2D payments.
As I understand it we would still get the meal breaks but we would not get paid for them like we do now.
Perhaps that's a good thing, perhaps it will stop people working through their break because they get paid. I actually do often work through my break, it's 20 minutes so I should finish at 0940, but because my relief doesn't start til 10 I stay til then, and sometimes beyond if they're a bit late, I'm always busy anyway so it's come and gone before I realise it - but if the pay stops, so will the goodwill. This then begs the question because I am part time and paid for the break, will my hours drop from 5 to 4.40?
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peanutLU2 wrote:This wud b pure madness if this is agreed by the union. they on f**k*n' hard drugs or what? Where is this info? wanna see it for myself. :mfo


I heard this information last night from a union rep who had attended a meeting yesterday afternoon. I, of course, cannot confirm its validity.
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cyclemech1 wrote:As I understand it we would still get the meal breaks but we would not get paid for them like we do now.
Whats the point of that then?
We do 40 hours now minus say 40mins times 5 days which is 2hrs 20mins which means a net hourage of 37hrs 40mins so (if it is going to be a 36hr week) we only get a weekly reduction of 1hr 40mins!! :d'oh!
It would just encourage those that don't take breaks now to run around even more! :arrrghhh[/quote]



I hate to p1ss you off even more but 5x40mins is 3hr 20 net hourage 36hrs40mins reduction 40mins :d'oh!
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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fishtank wrote:
cyclemech1 wrote:As I understand it we would still get the meal breaks but we would not get paid for them like we do now.
Whats the point of that then?
We do 40 hours now minus say 40mins times 5 days which is 2hrs 20mins which means a net hourage of 37hrs 40mins so (if it is going to be a 36hr week) we only get a weekly reduction of 1hr 40mins!! :d'oh!
It would just encourage those that don't take breaks now to run around even more! :arrrghhh


I hate to p1ss you off even more but 5x40mins is 3hr 20 net hourage 36hrs40mins reduction 40mins :d'oh![/quote]


We currently work 36 hours 40 min and get paid for 40 hours. With this we work 36 hours and get paid for 36 hours......... So basically under this great new modern terms & conditions we work 40 mins less per week for 4 hours less pay! :arrrghhh Am I missing something here....What is the point of this?...Even if they raised our pay by the amount of money we lose from unpaid meal releifs we still wouldn't gain anything.
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Surely it must mean, we get the same basic pay as now for the 36 hours but as stated, wont be paid for meal reliefs. So your working day would be 7hrs 12mins without a break.
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Re: Who gets to vote on this agreement?

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mclovin wrote:If this is the case:

Withdrawl of D2D payment

D2D cap lifted

Saturday same as week day's time wise

36 hour week

Then surely Mail Centre staff cant be balloted for it, it has to be delivery staff only.
I would think that the number of DO staff round the country must be at least 25% more then the number of MC staff around the country.
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Re: Who gets to vote on this agreement?

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fishtank wrote:
cyclemech1 wrote:As I understand it we would still get the meal breaks but we would not get paid for them like we do now.
Whats the point of that then?
We do 40 hours now minus say 40mins times 5 days which is 2hrs 20mins which means a net hourage of 37hrs 40mins so (if it is going to be a 36hr week) we only get a weekly reduction of 1hr 40mins!! :d'oh!
It would just encourage those that don't take breaks now to run around even more! :arrrghhh


I hate to p1ss you off even more but 5x40mins is 3hr 20 net hourage 36hrs40mins reduction 40mins :d'oh![/quote]

D'oh! never was much good at working out times!! Better check my o/t docket tomorrow!!!