Managment Attck Underway As Predicted

[dave0876]

As predicted we are now under attack.Told today by DOM today that anyone of sick from now on there walks will have to be done by the rest of us ie absorb, my problem being part time i never get done in my time anyway so if they think im going half way cross town to deliver to 20 houses thery can go f**k themselves,also anyone working day off will not be paid but will be given as a day in lieu can u belive this u cant book a seperate days holiday now so how the f**k are u gonna be able to get these days back five people today told them they werent working there day off anymore this now leaves the dom with five duties to cover tomorrow wat a stupid f**k this guy is.

[Exrep]

Absorping is only to be done if time exists im your case you have nothink to worry about.

We were sopposed to absorp today but in the end we didnt we havnt been told yet that any one going sick we have to absorp there duty, but ill wait for that one obviously its coming.

Also i thought absorping was only for people on leave and not sick thats why your allowed more folk off during the absorping period.

Heard nothink yet either on working days off but i suppose this is the tip of the ice berg and we are in for one long tough fight against R/M in 2010 bring it on i say lets go to battle.

[fishtank]

As predicted we are now under attack.Told today by DOM today that anyone of sick from now on there walks will have to be done by the rest of us ie absorb, my problem being part time i never get done in my time anyway so if they think im going half way cross town to deliver to 20 houses thery can go f**k themselves,also anyone working day off will not be paid but will be given as a day in lieu can u belive this u cant book a seperate days holiday now so how the f**k are u gonna be able to get these days back five people today told them they werent working there day off anymore this now leaves the dom with five duties to cover tomorrow wat a stupid f**k this guy is.

Banked hours and absorbtion of sick leave have NOT been agreed by the CWU.
What does your rep have to say?
Your branch must be informed of this ASAP.

[AnotherLimey]

You know what? the union were right.

Do not come in early
Take your break
Do your job properly

All those things make lapsing impossible

I can not belive the number i see on here making DOMs jobs and bonuses easy, come on people get a grip

[Big Daz]

Phase 2 absorbing is purley the summer period when traditionally workoad declines and therefore asorbing can take place which is to go hand in hand with extra leave slots.

Phase 3 is about covering absence and reduced workload, that's black and white and IS agreed by CWU HQ


THIS DOCUMENT IS A NATIONAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN ROYAL MAIL AND CWU
Delivery Offices
Absorbing Hours & Covering for One Another

Aims

• To jointly identify/implement genuine opportunities to absorb outdoor and/or indoor workload where time exists within approved attendance times/normal paid work hours.
• To provide sensible options for the business to take advantage of opportunities to increase efficiency when workload declines, or there are absences.

[norbert]

QUOTE Dave0876 "anyone working day off will not be paid but will be given as a day in lieu"

- Jesus ! - all to save money , just don't work RD's then

[fishtank]

Phase 2 absorbing is purley the summer period when traditionally workoad declines and therefore asorbing can take place which is to go hand in hand with extra leave slots.

Phase 3 is about covering absence and reduced workload, that's black and white and IS agreed by CWU HQ


THIS DOCUMENT IS A NATIONAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN ROYAL MAIL AND CWU
Delivery Offices
Absorbing Hours & Covering for One Another

Aims

• To jointly identify/implement genuine opportunities to absorb outdoor and/or indoor workload where time exists within approved attendance times/normal paid work hours.
• To provide sensible options for the business to take advantage of opportunities to increase efficiency when workload declines, or there are absences.

No Daz,This is not a green light for management to absorb sick absence.
It is anything BUT black and white.
This is the most important of the many "guiding principles"

• Managers and CWU reps working together to ensure a successful introduction and operation of jointly identified opportunities/arrangements.

Do you think this has been applied here?

[el_cartero]

so is this official not paid for working days off?

time to find another job and with pleasure.

i cant live on part time hours without that extra now and again.

[AnotherLimey]

so is this official not paid for working days off?

time to find another job and with pleasure.

i cant live on part time hours without that extra now and again.

It's so easy, Do not work days off as an office, may sound easy but my office is strong, Stop all overtime and in time they are begging you to do it on your terms, simples

[Big Daz]

By green light do you mean absorb all sick leave no matter what or do you mean that the phase 3 agreement does not allow for any sick leave absorbsoprtion?

So long as the earnings part of phase 3 is followed as well, then whats the problem with absorption if time does genuinely exist on any duty in any D.O? Nobody likes absoption, but it's been agreed by the powers that be.

In my D.O I have it in wording that a maxium of two deliveries will be asorbed due to absence (the national phase 3 agreement does specify any given type of absence so therefore all must be acceptable for absporbtion so long as there is genuine time to do absporbtion) and any work after that is done via overtime.


As for "Managers and CWU reps working together to ensure a successful introduction and operation of jointly identified opportunities/arrangements" I imagine that has not worked out as intended in many a D.O or MC.

[fishtank]

"In my D.O I have it in wording that a maxium of two deliveries will be asorbed due to absence (the national phase 3 agreement does specify any given type of absence so therefore all must be acceptable for absporbtion so long as there is genuine time to do absporbtion) and any work after that is done via overtime."

I don't understand Daz,Are your members only sick on a tuesday as that is the only day absorbtion is a realistic target.
In our D.O We have it in writing sick absence will be covered by reserves,I guess it's one of those local issues.

[dvbuk55]

Well it may seem a little early but we started our Summer lapsing today - it wasn't agreed it was just implemented, the Reps are both on leave so there wasn't any question of disagreement - in any case the muppets here still come in early use their cars and then moan when they are having their delivery increased by 30 minutes a day - even if they are already on a 4 hour 15 min park and loop duty. Personally I think they get what they deserve, the clever ones ensure they have enough work on a daily basis to leave their element of lapsing. Big Daz do I recall you saying that you don't lapse because you are part time?

[fishtank]

Well it may seem a little early but we started our Summer lapsing today - it wasn't agreed it was just implemented, the Reps are both on leave so there wasn't any question of disagreement - in any case the muppets here still come in early use their cars and then moan when they are having their delivery increased by 30 minutes a day - even if they are already on a 4 hour 15 min park and loop duty. Personally I think they get what they deserve, the clever ones ensure they have enough work on a daily basis to leave their element of lapsing. Big Daz do I recall you saying that you don't lapse because you are part time?

Is this true Daz? you don't lapse.

Another guiding principle.

"All staff involved on an equal and fair basis."

Naughty Naughty Big Daz.

[smokerjim]

As predicted we are now under attack.Told today by DOM today that anyone of sick from now on there walks will have to be done by the rest of us ie absorb, my problem being part time i never get done in my time anyway so if they think im going half way cross town to deliver to 20 houses thery can go f**k themselves,also anyone working day off will not be paid but will be given as a day in lieu can u belive this u cant book a seperate days holiday now so how the f**k are u gonna be able to get these days back five people today told them they werent working there day off anymore this now leaves the dom with five duties to cover tomorrow wat a stupid f**k this guy is.

Just to repeat what is enshrined in law ( just in case your DIM disagrees ) - as a postman, you do not and cannot be forced to perm compulsory OT.....if you think you will not complete all duties assigned to you in the time available, go to your manager, tell him so, and then ask what he wants you to do ( and resist all the pressure you will be put under for as long as it takes ) if you cannot and will not work beyond your time YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT WORK BEYOND YOUR TIME!

[smelly_cat_lady]

"where time exists"

Surely if you start work on time, go for your full 40 minute meal relief, weigh your bags and work to your time, there won't be any time for lapsing? what is wrong with your people??! Stop it now! Tell you what, start work half an hour early, forget about your meal relief, run around like an idiot then work you half an hour flexibility ...do this for a month. For free. Now if Royal Mail asked you to work for free you'd tell them to go jump right? RIGHT?? Come on people get a grip