ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE
ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!
Strike breakers WILL be expelled from the Union!
-
POSTMAN
- SITE ADMINISTRATOR
- Posts: 32756
- Joined: 07 Aug 2006, 03:19
- Gender: Male
Strike breakers WILL be expelled from the Union!
Got a flyer today from the SE London postal and counters branch with how many offices had strike breakers in.
On it in a round about way part of it said.
"Should they (strike breakers) not be able to reconsider their actions then the branch will be actively seeking their expulsion under rule 14 of the unions national rules via CWU headquarters"
Rule 14 states as follows:Well the part we need:Its a bit long winded but the long and short of it is YES they can be kicked out.
Rule 14 Discipline
1. General
1. Matters of a disciplinary nature arising from the Rules or Regulations of the Union affecting an individual member or members of the UnionUnion members shall only be dealt with in accordance with the provisions of this Rule.
2. A member shall be liable to disciplinary action in respect of the following:
a) Acting in breach of the Rules of the Union;
(a)b) Behaving in a manner contrary to the interests of the Union;
c) Failing to carry out the lawful and reasonable instructions of a Branch, the National Executive Council, Annual or Special Conference;
d) Acting in breach of the Rules of the Union.
2. National Discipline Committee (NDC)
1. All matters calling for disciplinary action shall be determined by the NDC, which shall consist of three members appointed by the NEC. There shall be three named substitutes to replace any or all of the members of the NDC if they are not available.
2. The Committee shall be served by an Officer appointed by the General Secretary.
3. National Discipline Committee Powers and Procedures
1. All matters requiring consideration under the authority of this Rule shall be referred the General Secretary and by the General Secretary to the NDC. Such matters may be referred to the General Secretary by either a member or a Branch.
2. The NDC has the power to require the production of written evidence and attendance of witnesses who are members of the Union. In the event of non-production of written evidence or non-attendance by either of the parties involved, the Committee has the right to take a decision in their absence.
3. The NEC shall prescribe Regulations governing thegoverning the procedure for the conduct of all cases before the NDC and may amend such Regulations from time to time. These amendments shall be subject to endorsement at the next subsequent Annual Conference.
4. The conduct and integrity of CWU Representatives is of the utmost importance. If aA Union Representative is accused, of being involved in conduct that brings the Union into disrepute, mayMAY have their credentials or office suspended, pending the outcome of the discipline process.
-2-
This can be done in two ways:
a) Any Branch OfficeR or member of the Branch can instigate a charge and the Branch can theOn receipt of a charge a Branch mayn suspend the individual's credentials or office. This carries the right of appeal to the NDC; or
b) On receipt of a charge, the NDC can suspend the individual's credentials or office.
In relevant circumstances if suspension is deemed appropriate it must be done quickly and Branches It is preferable that any suspension is done quickly and therefore Branches are encouraged required to consider this action option in the relevant circumstances. The onus should not be on the accuser to know that this action can be taken NEITHER SHOULD THEY FEEL that they have to take it themselves. Suspension of credentials or office can only be done as part of the process involving National Discipline and at no other time.
5. The NDC shall consider each charge the reference by the General Secretary as presented and conclude whether or not a prima facie case exists. If a prima facie case exists, it shall proceed to a full hearing of the NDC.
6. Following the full hearing of a complaint, the NDC may exercise any one or more of the following powers:
(a) to censure the member concerned;
(b) to fine the member such sum as the NDC shall consider fair and reasonable, having regard to the circumstances;
(c) to suspend the member from membership or from all or any benefits of membership for such time as may be determined;
(d) to remove the member from any office the member may hold in or on behalf of the Uni;on;
(e) to disqualify the member from holding such office for such period of time aas the NDC may determine;
(f) impose a suspended sentence for so long as the NDC shall consider just and reasonable.
(f)(g) to expel the member from the Union.
(g)to impose a suspended sentence for so long as the NDC shall consider just and reasonable.
On it in a round about way part of it said.
"Should they (strike breakers) not be able to reconsider their actions then the branch will be actively seeking their expulsion under rule 14 of the unions national rules via CWU headquarters"
Rule 14 states as follows:Well the part we need:Its a bit long winded but the long and short of it is YES they can be kicked out.
Rule 14 Discipline
1. General
1. Matters of a disciplinary nature arising from the Rules or Regulations of the Union affecting an individual member or members of the UnionUnion members shall only be dealt with in accordance with the provisions of this Rule.
2. A member shall be liable to disciplinary action in respect of the following:
a) Acting in breach of the Rules of the Union;
(a)b) Behaving in a manner contrary to the interests of the Union;
c) Failing to carry out the lawful and reasonable instructions of a Branch, the National Executive Council, Annual or Special Conference;
d) Acting in breach of the Rules of the Union.
2. National Discipline Committee (NDC)
1. All matters calling for disciplinary action shall be determined by the NDC, which shall consist of three members appointed by the NEC. There shall be three named substitutes to replace any or all of the members of the NDC if they are not available.
2. The Committee shall be served by an Officer appointed by the General Secretary.
3. National Discipline Committee Powers and Procedures
1. All matters requiring consideration under the authority of this Rule shall be referred the General Secretary and by the General Secretary to the NDC. Such matters may be referred to the General Secretary by either a member or a Branch.
2. The NDC has the power to require the production of written evidence and attendance of witnesses who are members of the Union. In the event of non-production of written evidence or non-attendance by either of the parties involved, the Committee has the right to take a decision in their absence.
3. The NEC shall prescribe Regulations governing thegoverning the procedure for the conduct of all cases before the NDC and may amend such Regulations from time to time. These amendments shall be subject to endorsement at the next subsequent Annual Conference.
4. The conduct and integrity of CWU Representatives is of the utmost importance. If aA Union Representative is accused, of being involved in conduct that brings the Union into disrepute, mayMAY have their credentials or office suspended, pending the outcome of the discipline process.
-2-
This can be done in two ways:
a) Any Branch OfficeR or member of the Branch can instigate a charge and the Branch can theOn receipt of a charge a Branch mayn suspend the individual's credentials or office. This carries the right of appeal to the NDC; or
b) On receipt of a charge, the NDC can suspend the individual's credentials or office.
In relevant circumstances if suspension is deemed appropriate it must be done quickly and Branches It is preferable that any suspension is done quickly and therefore Branches are encouraged required to consider this action option in the relevant circumstances. The onus should not be on the accuser to know that this action can be taken NEITHER SHOULD THEY FEEL that they have to take it themselves. Suspension of credentials or office can only be done as part of the process involving National Discipline and at no other time.
5. The NDC shall consider each charge the reference by the General Secretary as presented and conclude whether or not a prima facie case exists. If a prima facie case exists, it shall proceed to a full hearing of the NDC.
6. Following the full hearing of a complaint, the NDC may exercise any one or more of the following powers:
(a) to censure the member concerned;
(b) to fine the member such sum as the NDC shall consider fair and reasonable, having regard to the circumstances;
(c) to suspend the member from membership or from all or any benefits of membership for such time as may be determined;
(d) to remove the member from any office the member may hold in or on behalf of the Uni;on;
(e) to disqualify the member from holding such office for such period of time aas the NDC may determine;
(f) impose a suspended sentence for so long as the NDC shall consider just and reasonable.
(f)(g) to expel the member from the Union.
(g)to impose a suspended sentence for so long as the NDC shall consider just and reasonable.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
-
IWW Fellow Worker
- Posts: 3644
- Joined: 30 May 2007, 14:27
- Gender: Male
-
ulster postie
- Posts: 503
- Joined: 19 May 2007, 14:10
- Location: N IRELAND
-
IWW Fellow Worker
- Posts: 3644
- Joined: 30 May 2007, 14:27
- Gender: Male
Re: strike breakers
Fathers? strike breakers don't have fathers!ulster postie wrote:hope they use it GET RID OF THE F###ERS
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
-
jmlr1971
- Posts: 87
- Joined: 18 Jun 2007, 21:31
- Location: scotland
-
pinstripe
- Posts: 2472
- Joined: 25 May 2007, 16:42
- Gender: Male
- Location: 2 left turns from reality
I can't understand why anyone would join a union, pay their dues each week, vote for strike action (or not) and then go against the majority vote. I've been out-voted in the past and I accepted the result, I didn't like it but I got on with it. Why are these people wasting their money paying union dues? If they can't afford to lose a day's wages then surely they need every penny. Over the course of a year they must pay out at least £100 and for what?
"Oh, I'm in the union, but only when it suits me or when I need them".
I'm sorry but it you cannot accept that your fellow union members have collectively agreed through a secret ballot that they must take IA, then you have no right to be in our union. If you break a strike, cross a picket line then common sense and decency says that you should resign as you could never consider yourself a union member.
This is the clean version, I took out all the swear words except :lfo
"Oh, I'm in the union, but only when it suits me or when I need them".
I'm sorry but it you cannot accept that your fellow union members have collectively agreed through a secret ballot that they must take IA, then you have no right to be in our union. If you break a strike, cross a picket line then common sense and decency says that you should resign as you could never consider yourself a union member.
This is the clean version, I took out all the swear words except :lfo
-
strangler
- Posts: 441
- Joined: 07 Jun 2007, 15:43
-
Big Daz
- Posts: 5668
- Joined: 17 Apr 2007, 20:27
- Gender: Male
-
POSTMAN
- SITE ADMINISTRATOR
- Posts: 32756
- Joined: 07 Aug 2006, 03:19
- Gender: Male
Yeah i heard that,but i'm guessing there's some road they will go down to get things done.Big Daz wrote:And CWU can be taken to a tribunal if they chuck somebody out of the union for not striking
FACT!
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
-
IWW Fellow Worker
- Posts: 3644
- Joined: 30 May 2007, 14:27
- Gender: Male
I hope so. Of course if the strike breakers had a scrap of decency, they would all hang themselves saving the union any bother at all.POSTMAN wrote:Yeah i heard that,but i'm guessing there's some road they will go down to get things done.Big Daz wrote:And CWU can be taken to a tribunal if they chuck somebody out of the union for not striking
FACT!
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
-
padraig1965
- Posts: 92
- Joined: 07 Jun 2007, 12:07
Strike breakers WILL be expelled from the Union!
Would not be so lucky they would slither out of the rope.

Bonnie Scotland
-
coppertop
- Posts: 229
- Joined: 27 May 2007, 17:17
strike breakers
We have a scab telling people that he will smack us if we try and stop him from going into work. Nobody will stop anyone from going in but this just goes to show how sad he really is
-
de-coded
- MDEC
- Posts: 177
- Joined: 26 Apr 2007, 23:04