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who hasnt got xmas agreement.
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infidel
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who hasnt got xmas agreement.
staff in my office work 2/3hrs a day extra by time s/a ,rm say no flat rate ,aint happening.

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Exrep
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
Nothink in ours even asked the DSM if he wanted to discuss any xmas arrangements.
I wouldnt mind i was only going to ask for 3 hrs S/A on the 3 saturdays.
Its ok they will realise the error of there ways once xmas pressure is upon us then i will tell him hes missed the boat.
No arrangements means everyday is a normal working day if they try its in your contract that we can make you work a reasonable amount of O/T, fine as then i will tell the chaps to book 5 minutes over each day that is reasonable.
Im leaving it to the chaps to decide if they want to book normal O/T if they go over through the week.
I wont be.....
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I wouldnt mind i was only going to ask for 3 hrs S/A on the 3 saturdays.
Its ok they will realise the error of there ways once xmas pressure is upon us then i will tell him hes missed the boat.
No arrangements means everyday is a normal working day if they try its in your contract that we can make you work a reasonable amount of O/T, fine as then i will tell the chaps to book 5 minutes over each day that is reasonable.
Im leaving it to the chaps to decide if they want to book normal O/T if they go over through the week.
I wont be.....
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rhino49
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
We were told this morning that any day we feel we will need to go over we are to pre book with DOM or line manager and it will be paid at SA rate. Any days off worked will be paid at SA rate also. We have also been asked to even out the longs and shorts days but discussions due tomorrow on whether we add time top the short days at the end or the beginning of the duty spans.
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Exrep
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
Nice one rhino how the hell did your office manage that one.rhino49 wrote:We were told this morning that any day we feel we will need to go over we are to pre book with DOM or line manager and it will be paid at SA rate. Any days off worked will be paid at SA rate also. We have also been asked to even out the longs and shorts days but discussions due tomorrow on whether we add time top the short days at the end or the beginning of the duty spans.
But your post has just gave me an idea if the DSM comes back to me now im hitting him with what youve got thats a boss deal mate
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pinstripe
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
No news about Xmas Agreement in my office, knowing RM they'll tell us in January.
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Pegman
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
Our DOM said in mid November that he would start paying Christmas overtime when he sees the Coca Cola lorry on the tele. I've seen it four times.
Turns out he only watches BBC1 the tight git
Turns out he only watches BBC1 the tight git
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dejavu
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
Thats usually the way in our office, we find out half way through Christmas pressure. Last year it was work as normal, can come in on day off, if you work overtime claim it if not don't. And we only got to work one sunday if we wanted too. Expecting the same this year except they've already started letting people come in this week on their days off.pinstripe wrote:No news about Xmas Agreement in my office, knowing RM they'll tell us in January.
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citypostie
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
We've been told that we can't claim any overtime because we didn't offer to do any extra work when we were going home early in summer! so we owe the office hours. We all pointed out that since the 2nd peagsus revision we all work upto or over out times even on "easy days" and that we don't have banking of hours anyway, but were told point blank we would have to complete deliveries even if over out times with no overtime being paid.
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dejavu
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
citypostie wrote:We've been told that we can't claim any overtime because we didn't offer to do any extra work when we were going home early in summer! so we owe the office hours. We all pointed out that since the 2nd peagsus revision we all work upto or over out times even on "easy days" and that we don't have banking of hours anyway, but were told point blank we would have to complete deliveries even if over out times with no overtime being paid.
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mailman71
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
no way is this allowed,if they tried that crap in our office we would be out on strike.citypostie wrote:We've been told that we can't claim any overtime because we didn't offer to do any extra work when we were going home early in summer! so we owe the office hours. We all pointed out that since the 2nd peagsus revision we all work upto or over out times even on "easy days" and that we don't have banking of hours anyway, but were told point blank we would have to complete deliveries even if over out times with no overtime being paid.
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number one
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
citypostie, all your office needs to stick together and tell them to stick it!! Theres no way they can make you go over your time! How many times do people need telling this??? 
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dean07
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
There is nothing in your contract thats says THEY came make you do o/t anytime never mind xmas time.Tell them to f..k off.I do
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HESS
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- Joined: 17 Sep 2009, 20:29
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
Our members also got to work their day off at s/a rate...IVO also at s/a...and any pre-booked also at s/a , but at the 11th hour the DSM called our DOM to deny s/a extended delivery. Thus saving a massive 25p an hour....things must be bad..!! I can't believe staff working in one of the most important jobs at this time of the year(2nd only to Santa) are being denied any incentive to work on...!! You can bet your bottom dollar that these DSM's will be on a big pay day once Xmas is over and hailed a success....yet we are the 'grunts' on the frontline doing the hours for as little as RM can get away with...!!!! So much for skipping along hand in hand in-line with the interim agreement and feeling 'valued'....???
So .....back to your question Infidel.....no....we aint signed it off yet,members will decide before the weeks out...!!
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Exrep
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
Asked DSM again today there giving us nothink so stuff them they will need us before we need them
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Exrep
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Re: who hasnt got xmas agreement.
Tell your DIM the men in the strait jackets are coming to get him.citypostie wrote:We've been told that we can't claim any overtime because we didn't offer to do any extra work when we were going home early in summer! so we owe the office hours. We all pointed out that since the 2nd peagsus revision we all work upto or over out times even on "easy days" and that we don't have banking of hours anyway, but were told point blank we would have to complete deliveries even if over out times with no overtime being paid.
What a load of TOSH.
If hes not paying O/T get a ruling he can not force you to work past your time.
Obviously your offie has no xmas agreement in place just like mine so every day regardless it being xmas is treated as a normal working day.
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