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BINMEN START TO CROSS THE LINE

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After 9 weeks of i/a, it has been reported that 100 workers have crossed the picket, one of the workers has complained of being called a (QUOTE) SCAB. :silenced . I wonder if our I/A lasts for much longer, will the same happen.
On another note our lino has told us that R.M. WILL BE DOCKING THE NEXT 2 DAYS I/A FROM NEXT WEEKS WAGES, IS THIS LEGAL, HAS H.Q. THE RIGHT TO CHALLANGE THIS ATTEMPT TO BULLY OUR MEMBERS BACK TO WORK. ANYWAY I WONT BE FALLING FOR THIS ONE. THEY MUST BE GETING WORRIED. UNITY IS STRENGH.

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Re: BINMEN START TO CROSS THE LINE

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I think they tried that last time, not sure what the outcome was.
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Re: BINMEN START TO CROSS THE LINE

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would be good if someone could find out?
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Re: BINMEN START TO CROSS THE LINE

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yeah they did it in 2007 :whistle they must be starting to get desperate :pray
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Re: BINMEN START TO CROSS THE LINE

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Workers cross bin strike picket http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west ... 340460.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

More than 100 refuse and street cleaning staff in Leeds have crossed a picket line to work as the bin strike enters its ninth week.

Leeds City Council's leader Richard Brett said many of the workers were being subjected to abuse from their colleagues who are on strike.

Waste collectors and street cleaning staff walked out on 7 September in a dispute over pay.

One worker who has crossed the picket line said he was being called a "scab".

The council said 44 out of 200 employees rostered to work in the refuse department on Tuesday had arrived for work.

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In street cleaning, 100 out of 170 employees rostered had also turned up for work.

The authority said staff who had chosen to return to work were a mixture of council employees and agency workers.

One man, who asked to remain anonymous, said he joined the strike when it began but was forced to go back after his agency told him they had no other work for him.

He told BBC News: "If I don't go to work I don't get any money.

"At the end of the day I've got to go to work and if it means crossing the picket line to go and earn money to support my family then I'll do it."

The joint leaders of the council held talks with union officials for the first time on Monday where the council leaders agreed to review productivity targets.

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Re: BINMEN START TO CROSS THE LINE

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I really feel for the poor guys that are still sriking. It must be like getting stabbed in the back.
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Re: BINMEN START TO CROSS THE LINE

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After nine weeks,only 11% have gone back in,kudos to all the folks still out,and no I cant find it in my heart to hate the folks who went in.
The posties who didnt even come out on strike with us for one day,should be ashamed.
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Re: BINMEN START TO CROSS THE LINE

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Yahoorsur wrote:After nine weeks,only 11% have gone back in,kudos to all the folks still out,and no I cant find it in my heart to hate the folks who went in.
The posties who didnt even come out on strike with us for one day,should be ashamed.
Thats the way i look at it,But i had 5 fulltimers and 11 partimers in. :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ds-council" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well done the Leeds binmen,Fib Dems in power are just as nasty as Blu-Labour.Nice to see a victory for working people for once,some of the comments on the Grunaird are just the abnormal Neo con trolls.
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Re: BINMEN START TO CROSS THE LINE

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The bin-men round our way deserve every penny they get. :Applause :Applause :Applause
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A rubbish pay dispute

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ds-council" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In its failed attempt to cut refuse workers' pay by a third, Leeds council has cast itself as an enemy of the low-paid working class

Beyond television shots of piling rubbish and narrow Victorian terraces, a surprise victory for Leeds refuse workers will send national reverberations to elected politicians, employers and public sectors workers alike. Attempts by the Liberal Democrat/Conservative ruling coalition to cut the already modest pay of refuse collectors from £18,000 to £13,000 a year, all the while "modernising" the service they provide, were roundly rejected by the workforce and public opinion.

If any reader is unsure of what modernising would entail, imagine forward-thinking concepts such as more work and less pay; in the case of the Leeds bin workers, 33% less pay, at a time of economic hardship. This resonated with the public and attempts by the council to isolate the strike by employing an even more desperate and mistreated strata of our labour market – agency workers – only hardened the strikers' backbone.

As the dispute approached week 12, many suspected that talks were being deliberately stalled by the council as this staging post would mean it could sack the entire workforce under existing employment law. But gradually, aided by generally objective reporting on the part of the local media, the council PR machine found itself making no headway even as the rubbish accumulated on city streets.

Watching from the wings, councils such as Bradford, Wakefield and Kirklees quickly settled their pay and grading reviews without dispute and Brighton swiftly came to a deal with its workforce rather than risk the scenes of rubbish piling up on their own streets.

What lessons for all parties, locally and nationally? For local authorities, the hard ball, zero dialogue tactics with a group of low-paid workers deployed by Leeds City Council proved a singular failure; especially as the trade unions involved (GMB and Unison) were ready to talk from day one. This obstinacy stalled negotiations for a month and did little to mobilise public opinion against the refuse workers as council leaders had hoped. Only the public and many of the low-paid striking workers who were already in debt before this dispute started suffered.

This has cast Leeds council in a bad light, and other local authorities should take note. Public opinion does not favour punishing hardworking people who have done little to cause this recession. Within the Leeds Labour party there are now few echoing the calls of some of the London-based chattering classes for an alliance with progressive elements within Liberal Democrats, who regionally, have form.

Back in December 2008 when the recession began to bite hard, a Labour and Green coalition tried to secure a "Leeds Living Wage" to anyone directly or indirectly employed by the council.

The Liberal Democrat council leader, Richard Brett, strongly opposed the move, even telling the executive board that low-paid workers were "lucky" to have a job at all owing to the current economic conditions.

Later, Brett had the cheek to cite the example of students being paid badly in casual employment across the city to call into question any special treatment for the bin workers. Brett knew perfectly well that the student unions of Leeds Met and Leeds University both campaigned passionately for the "Leeds Living Wage" status that he and his party opposed and blocked.

Nationally, the workforce flexibility so admired by New Labour and the conservatives has increasingly left lower-paid workers vulnerable to the tumult of privatisation, the use of agency workers and the threat of dismissal after the 12-week period on strike is reached. It is patently obvious that this is very, very unpopular with marginalised working class voters.

And these disputes are as much about the future of the services as they are about a fair deal for the low paid. During the most bitter impasse in Leeds – in sentiments remarkably similar to implications briefed by Royal Mail and Lord Mandleson during the recent postal strikes – the leader of the council warned on record "if there's no resolution to this dispute, we may have to privatise". This naked preference to flog public services demonstrates that at this time of severe economic difficulty, ideological agendas overran the plight of the low paid.

We are now seeing groups of workers ready to stand up to oppose deteriorating wages and conditions. They feel that the economic crisis should not be solved at their expense and are showing a real combative attitude when attacked. The Leeds bin workers' stance and their ultimate victory under extremely difficult circumstances prove that working people are not willing to be turned over; their example will be followed by others.
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