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Seniority... How does it work?????

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Johnny_Rad
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Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by Johnny_Rad »

Hi
I am hoping someone could tell me how senoirity works. I have just transfered to a new office, and had to go from a 40 hour contract to a 20 hour crontact in the process. They are having a re-pick in my new office, and even though I have 5 years service there are people on 30 hour contracts who have only worked for the company 6 months that are more senior than me.
Is this right??? As in my old office, seniority went on time served, regardless of how many hours a week you were contracted.

Any advice would be appreciated................
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joseph
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by joseph »

That`s right
Johnny_Rad
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by Johnny_Rad »

What is right??
vinnieb5
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by vinnieb5 »

seniority is years with RM not hours per week :cuppa
spilie
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by spilie »

depends on whether the duties are split into full and part time, if so you would take your place according to your seniority in the part time pick, if all in then you would take your place in the overall office seniority, either way nobody with less service should get a pick before you
ad0128
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by ad0128 »

it doesnt work and should be scrapped
dvbuk55
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by dvbuk55 »

ad0128 wrote:it doesnt work and should be scrapped
It does and it shouldn't.

The number of hours on a contract should have no bearing on seniority because all delivery duties should be equal any internal work would then be picked up by the less senior with more hours - at least that is the theory :chuckle :chuckle
fishtank
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by fishtank »

dvbuk55 wrote:
ad0128 wrote:it doesnt work and should be scrapped
It does and it shouldn't.

The number of hours on a contract should have no bearing on seniority because all delivery duties should be equal any internal work would then be picked up by the less senior with more hours - at least that is the theory :chuckle :chuckle

This has become a major issue in my office.
In january they intend to roll out van sharing throughout the entire office.
For van sharing to work properly it requires 2 drivers.
The rest of the shifts are part-time.Full timers do not get to pick part-time walks.
What do you do if you are a full-time non driver.
Does'nt matter how many years you have in you are a reserve.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
bitchface
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by bitchface »

acas told me that its very challangable in court.
its effectavly Ageism .as more senior will nearly always be older.

some mentally stunted people say its best ,otherwise managers will pick your duities for you..well ,hello that makes the most sence to me.duties on ability not seniority.a managers isnt going to put the 60 year old with back problems and a double hernia on the largest town round.hes going to put him on the cushy rural with 200 delivery points.the runners will be put on the town rounds..

makes perfect sense and works in EVERY other company in britain even probably the world
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

bitchface wrote:acas told me that its very challangable in court.
its effectavly Ageism .as more senior will nearly always be older.

some mentally stunted people say its best,otherwise managers will pick your duities for you..well ,hello that makes the most sence to me.duties on ability not seniority.a managers isnt going to put the 60 year old with back problems and a double hernia on the largest town round.hes going to put him on the cushy rural with 200 delivery points.the runners will be put on the town rounds..

makes perfect sense and works in EVERY other company in britain even probably the world

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taxi4leighton
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by taxi4leighton »

to get back to the original point, your seniority should transfer with you.and the number of hours you work shouldnt matter either as our circumstances change.seniority should be the simplest measure to use, but you always have some "chancers" who try to bypass it.
damo
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by damo »

seniority is one of the best protections a postie can have,it cuts out favouritism, ageism, sexism, racism and any other ism you can think of. :Very Happy
iblamemedad
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by iblamemedad »

To all the seniority isn't fair brigade. Wait till you've got 20 plus years in and then see if you feel the same about seniority :hmmmm :hmmmm
dvbuk55
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by dvbuk55 »

bitchface wrote:acas told me that its very challangable in court.
its effectavly Ageism .as more senior will nearly always be older.

some mentally stunted people say its best ,otherwise managers will pick your duities for you..well ,hello that makes the most sence to me.duties on ability not seniority.a managers isnt going to put the 60 year old with back problems and a double hernia on the largest town round.hes going to put him on the cushy rural with 200 delivery points.the runners will be put on the town rounds..

makes perfect sense and works in EVERY other company in britain even probably the world
I don't want to be offensive - but, it is my experience that female members of staff are treated shall we say more fairly than male members. Consequently it is more likely that a manager would favour a female postie over a male if they were given the option.

It's always the ones who have no service in that feel they are superior and god forbid YOU should ever get a double hernia and a bad back and put your trust in the fairness of a manager.
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Re: Seniority... How does it work?????

Post by Stormproof »

dvbuk55 wrote: I don't want to be offensive - but, it is my experience that female members of staff are treated shall we say more fairly than male members. .
Not with me they don't :left: :wink:
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