The positives and good points from todays agreement....

[Sci_Dog]

Thanks for reading
Sci_Dog

[Viewfindergeneral]

I can see what you're getting at but I'm probably in the minority.

[johnnyp]

OK heres a few

The CWU are back in the negotiation process Something management do NOT want.
Innovative Duty structures are back in the frame Use them to you advantage,again something management do NOT like,but offices that have them do.
The strikes are STILL in place and will be used if management try a U-turn on the agreement.
Every office will be reviewed,our chance to put things right that management have wronged.
Agreed talks on job security
A new reward and benefits package
Fair workloads with transparent standards
Mail centre framework agreement
An agreement on Delivery Spans
Talks on D2D
Dealing with bullying and Harrasment,which includes a review of all cases


There are lots of good points in the agreement when you read through it and well worth taking I/A for imho.

[xXPostmanPatXx]

one of the bad points is the lack of negotiations with royal mail by Billy Hayes, this should have been settles months ago

[piranha]

OK heres a few

The CWU are back in the negotiation process Something management do NOT want.
Innovative Duty structures are back in the frame Use them to you advantage,again something management do NOT like,but offices that have them do.
The strikes are STILL in place and will be used if management try a U-turn on the agreement.
Every office will be reviewed,our chance to put things right that management have wronged.
Agreed talks on job security
A new reward and benefits package
Fair workloads with transparent standards
Mail centre framework agreement
An agreement on Delivery Spans
Talks on D2D
Dealing with bullying and Harrasment,which includes a review of all cases


There are lots of good points in the agreement when you read through it and well worth taking I/A for imho.

compared to Royal Mails previous stance of destroy the union this is a good start

[TrueBlueTerrier]

one of the bad points is the lack of negotiations with royal mail by Billy Hayes, this should have been settles months ago

Proof - you are not a postie mate - they were in discussions as far back as June but RM refused to negotiate. At least if you are trying to pretend to be a postie (on deliveries in an RDC with an extra 150 drops )at least research the subject.

[johnnyp]

one of the bad points is the lack of negotiations with royal mail by Billy Hayes, this should have been settles months ago

Nothing to do with Billy,Dave Ward is the lead negotiator on the postal side of things.

[Sci_Dog]

OK heres a few

The CWU are back in the negotiation process Something management do NOT want.
Innovative Duty structures are back in the frame Use them to you advantage,again something management do NOT like,but offices that have them do.
The strikes are STILL in place and will be used if management try a U-turn on the agreement.
Every office will be reviewed,our chance to put things right that management have wronged.
Agreed talks on job security
A new reward and benefits package
Fair workloads with transparent standards
Mail centre framework agreement
An agreement on Delivery Spans
Talks on D2D
Dealing with bullying and Harrasment,which includes a review of all cases


There are lots of good points in the agreement when you read through it and well worth taking I/A for imho.

There has been peace talks, reviews and negotiations in The Middle East for years now. Still no definite peace and still no positive outcome that benefits all people involved. Israel still have to flex their power to show they won't be pushed over during any talks that concern their country.

ACTIONS ARE STRONGER THAN WORDS

[xXPostmanPatXx]

TBH not alot from what ive read, looks like billy hayes hasnt done his job yet again

[wingmanchillian]

I've only read it the once without going and referencing the 07 pay+mod MTFS etc.. but the general gist of it does not fill me with the dread i thought it would. i think mainly because they have addressed job security, workload, predominately full time workforce, walk allocation etc.

sure there were a couple of things that looked dubious but, meh. swings and roundabouts init

[kingtubby]

TBH not alot from what ive read, looks like billy hayes hasnt done his job yet again

Do you have an OCD?

[sareknees]

very little if any at all.. We,ve had 18months of utter crap and the best we come away with is this ... deja vu

[xXPostmanPatXx]

none

[Shrek]

Their seems to be a lot of "local Agreement" in the agreement. That is the only worrying bit for me, But I think we won this battle but the war is still on.

[razor]

I just think both sides saw sense and realised if they didn't get some sort of agreement sorted asap there would be no business left to fight over.