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are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
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underpaidoverwalked
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are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
r the cwu still going to court tomorrow about scab mail centers tomorrow
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sharpjambo
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
i think they should be talking to there members and explain whats going on

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headscrewedon
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
If the CWU dropping the proposed court action is not part of the deal, I'll be amazed.
It might be better if we don't go to court. Have the CWU thought seriously about the consequences if the court sides with Royal Mail and says bringing people in to clear a backlog is NOT illegal ??
It would give them the green light to use that tactic in any future dispute, severely negating the power of striking for generations to come
It might be better if we don't go to court. Have the CWU thought seriously about the consequences if the court sides with Royal Mail and says bringing people in to clear a backlog is NOT illegal ??
It would give them the green light to use that tactic in any future dispute, severely negating the power of striking for generations to come
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Stumpy
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
Just read a report that says Fridays court case has been put on hold.
Unity is strength
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chewi
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
every day and in every way the revolution gets a little bit closer
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underpaidoverwalked
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
whens it gonna happen when tracey chapman goes to no1 again............ ss should b no 10chewi wrote:every day and in every way the revolution gets a little bit closer
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DemonPostie
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
From the BBCNews website:
"The CWU also confirmed that it was not now pressing ahead with its legal challenge to the Royal Mail over its policy of employing temporary workers to deal with the postal backlog.
It had previously been due to go to the High Court on Friday, accusing Royal Mail of using the temporary staff to try to break the strike, something Royal Mail strongly denied. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8345423.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"The CWU also confirmed that it was not now pressing ahead with its legal challenge to the Royal Mail over its policy of employing temporary workers to deal with the postal backlog.
It had previously been due to go to the High Court on Friday, accusing Royal Mail of using the temporary staff to try to break the strike, something Royal Mail strongly denied. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8345423.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Mercian
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
So, the CWU has backed away from taking legal action against an illegal operation run by Royal Mail ?
I will now be pushing my Branch Chairman to request answers from the CWU hierarchy to justify why they are not bothering to challenge fundamentally wrong practices. To me, this is a slap in the face to all postal workers from the CWU.
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8345423.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Legal action
The CWU also confirmed that it was not now pressing ahead with its legal challenge to the Royal Mail over its policy of employing temporary workers to deal with the postal backlog.
I will now be pushing my Branch Chairman to request answers from the CWU hierarchy to justify why they are not bothering to challenge fundamentally wrong practices. To me, this is a slap in the face to all postal workers from the CWU.
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Barry Trotter
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
Mercian wrote:So, the CWU has backed away from taking legal action against an illegal operation run by Royal Mail ?
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8345423.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Legal action
The CWU also confirmed that it was not now pressing ahead with its legal challenge to the Royal Mail over its policy of employing temporary workers to deal with the postal backlog.
I will now be pushing my Branch Chairman to request answers from the CWU hierarchy to justify why they are not bothering to challenge fundamentally wrong practices. To me, this is a slap in the face to all postal workers from the CWU.
Exactly, its illegal and will harm card carrying postal workers but we will let it go this time.
I am a postman and I kept the faith and I kept voting, not for new labour but for the working man.
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k979aaa
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
CWU flying the white flag for business!.
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Mercian
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
Barry Trotter wrote: Exactly, its illegal and will harm card carrying postal workers but we will let it go this time.
I certainly will not be letting this one go........
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headscrewedon
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
Mercian, I'll say it again - that court case was a huge risk. To lose it would blunt the only tool the working masses have - withdrawal of labour. If the employer was found to have a legal right to just flood the offices with temps the day after a strike, we truly would be f**ked forevermore 
Barry, it has not been judged to be legal or illegal, The court case would have determined that. Great if the law came down on our side. But look at the consequences if they ruled in favour of Royal Mail !!!!
I'm glad this case has been dropped
Barry, it has not been judged to be legal or illegal, The court case would have determined that. Great if the law came down on our side. But look at the consequences if they ruled in favour of Royal Mail !!!!
I'm glad this case has been dropped
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Mercian
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So as it is -without the legal challenge, the CWU have now given Royal Mail carte blanche to keep employing agency staff to do the work of posties - not just at the mail centers but also all these "hybrid" drivers we have sitting round for 10 hours a day !headscrewedon wrote:Mercian, I'll say it again - that court case was a huge risk. To lose it would blunt the only tool the working masses have - withdrawal of labour. If the employer was found to have a legal right to just flood the offices with temps the day after a strike, we truly would be f**ked forevermore
Barry, it has not been judged to be legal or illegal, The court case would have determined that. Great if the law came down on our side. But look at the consequences if they ruled in favour of Royal Mail !!!!
I'm glad this case has been dropped
Risky or not, advice has been sought from council and council would not be putting a case forward if there was no justification. Or is that what the CWU are now saying - employing agency staff to cover strikes is acceptable and legal ?
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headscrewedon
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
The TUC possibly had a word with the CWU about the wisdom or not of mounting a legal challenge. Losing the case would affect other unions across the land - it could potentially enshrine in law an employer's right to use agency staff to undermine the effects of a strike.
RM weren't proposing to bring these people on the day of the strike(s), they were planning to bring them in after, which is a bit of a grey area. Do we really want their right to do this confirmed in law ???
RM weren't proposing to bring these people on the day of the strike(s), they were planning to bring them in after, which is a bit of a grey area. Do we really want their right to do this confirmed in law ???
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k979aaa
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Re: are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow
Tuc has stuffed us twice fu@kem!.