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are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow

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are the cwu still taking the royal mail to court tomorrow

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r the cwu still going to court tomorrow about scab mail centers tomorrow
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i think they should be talking to there members and explain whats going on :mad :mad
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If the CWU dropping the proposed court action is not part of the deal, I'll be amazed.

It might be better if we don't go to court. Have the CWU thought seriously about the consequences if the court sides with Royal Mail and says bringing people in to clear a backlog is NOT illegal ??

It would give them the green light to use that tactic in any future dispute, severely negating the power of striking for generations to come :d'oh!
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Just read a report that says Fridays court case has been put on hold.
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every day and in every way the revolution gets a little bit closer
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chewi wrote:every day and in every way the revolution gets a little bit closer
whens it gonna happen when tracey chapman goes to no1 again............ ss should b no 10 :crazy:
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From the BBCNews website:

"The CWU also confirmed that it was not now pressing ahead with its legal challenge to the Royal Mail over its policy of employing temporary workers to deal with the postal backlog.

It had previously been due to go to the High Court on Friday, accusing Royal Mail of using the temporary staff to try to break the strike, something Royal Mail strongly denied. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8345423.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mercian
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So, the CWU has backed away from taking legal action against an illegal operation run by Royal Mail ?
Legal action

The CWU also confirmed that it was not now pressing ahead with its legal challenge to the Royal Mail over its policy of employing temporary workers to deal with the postal backlog.
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8345423.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I will now be pushing my Branch Chairman to request answers from the CWU hierarchy to justify why they are not bothering to challenge fundamentally wrong practices. To me, this is a slap in the face to all postal workers from the CWU.
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Mercian wrote:So, the CWU has backed away from taking legal action against an illegal operation run by Royal Mail ?
Legal action

The CWU also confirmed that it was not now pressing ahead with its legal challenge to the Royal Mail over its policy of employing temporary workers to deal with the postal backlog.
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8345423.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I will now be pushing my Branch Chairman to request answers from the CWU hierarchy to justify why they are not bothering to challenge fundamentally wrong practices. To me, this is a slap in the face to all postal workers from the CWU.

Exactly, its illegal and will harm card carrying postal workers but we will let it go this time.
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CWU flying the white flag for business!.
Mercian
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Barry Trotter wrote: Exactly, its illegal and will harm card carrying postal workers but we will let it go this time.

I certainly will not be letting this one go........ :mad
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Mercian, I'll say it again - that court case was a huge risk. To lose it would blunt the only tool the working masses have - withdrawal of labour. If the employer was found to have a legal right to just flood the offices with temps the day after a strike, we truly would be f**ked forevermore :arrrghhh

Barry, it has not been judged to be legal or illegal, The court case would have determined that. Great if the law came down on our side. But look at the consequences if they ruled in favour of Royal Mail !!!!

I'm glad this case has been dropped
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headscrewedon wrote:Mercian, I'll say it again - that court case was a huge risk. To lose it would blunt the only tool the working masses have - withdrawal of labour. If the employer was found to have a legal right to just flood the offices with temps the day after a strike, we truly would be f**ked forevermore :arrrghhh

Barry, it has not been judged to be legal or illegal, The court case would have determined that. Great if the law came down on our side. But look at the consequences if they ruled in favour of Royal Mail !!!!

I'm glad this case has been dropped
So as it is -without the legal challenge, the CWU have now given Royal Mail carte blanche to keep employing agency staff to do the work of posties - not just at the mail centers but also all these "hybrid" drivers we have sitting round for 10 hours a day !

Risky or not, advice has been sought from council and council would not be putting a case forward if there was no justification. Or is that what the CWU are now saying - employing agency staff to cover strikes is acceptable and legal ?
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The TUC possibly had a word with the CWU about the wisdom or not of mounting a legal challenge. Losing the case would affect other unions across the land - it could potentially enshrine in law an employer's right to use agency staff to undermine the effects of a strike.

RM weren't proposing to bring these people on the day of the strike(s), they were planning to bring them in after, which is a bit of a grey area. Do we really want their right to do this confirmed in law ??? :shock:
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Tuc has stuffed us twice fu@kem!.