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Driving Allowance
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oneweepostiee
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Driving Allowance
seen this in the blue shirts and was wondering what it is for certian driving ,escort ,tranist,and hightop and how much for each one and can it be back dated
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celerycelery
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Re: Driving Allowance
I may be wrong but think you only get it now if you convey people out in a high top. Thinks its about a fiver a day you get. Think some people still get it if they were gettting it when it was abolished.
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gerardy
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Re: Driving Allowance
Is there anyone on this site who knows all the facts about the driving allowances:
the crew bus driver in our office has never had a driving allowance.
If he is intittled to one he could try and get it all back-dated.
could maybe get a drink out of him lol.
the crew bus driver in our office has never had a driving allowance.
If he is intittled to one he could try and get it all back-dated.
could maybe get a drink out of him lol.
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johnnyp
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Re: Driving Allowance
This is from The Way Forward agreement,
Rates have gone up as this is 9 years old.
ASSIGNED ALLOWANCES
Most existing allowances have been absorbed within the higher level of basic pay, which will now reflect and reward the broader range of skills covered by the new grade. Nevertheless there remain some specific areas where pensionable assigned allowances will be paid, on conditioned hours only, to reflect the additional qualifications or special circumstances required, as follows:
LGV driving (vehicles plated over 7.5 tonnes) £33.66 per week
LGV driving (vehicles plated 3.50 tonnes to 7.5 tonnes) £23.46 per week
Advanced TPM £18.36 per week
Postbus (PSV licensed) driving £10.20 per weekTPO Duty £46.00 per week
Leadership Allowance (incl. TPO in charge) £4.84 per week (at least 2 hours booked off)
Jobs with scheduled Rural Waiting Time £7.90 (at least 3 hrs), £8.98 (at least 4 hrs)
Apart from the Leadership Allowance which may be combined with another allowance in certain circumstances (e.g. with TPO Duty for “TPO in charge”), no more than one of these assigned allowances may be claimed by any employee during any week, on top of shift allowance due. Employees on rotations will receive an average payment reflecting the average of their various conditioned attendances.
No assigned allowance payments will be made for hours worked on overtime or SA.
For each ad hoc attendance within conditioned hours (except those arising from voluntary exchanges or swaps of attendance of less than a week) a one-off pensionable and contributory payment will be made, equal to the weekly amount divided by the number of attendances to which the employee is conditioned for that week. For temporary job changes lasting one week or more, allowances will be paid to each employee according the the attendance actually worked.
OTHER ALLOWANCES
In addition to the assigned allowances, there will be a number of intermittent non-pensionable allowances:
TPO bank holiday passenger £1.94 per hour
Training Allowance (non-school) on conditioned hours £18.36 per week
Weekend SA involving at least 3 hours LGV £6.97 (or £4.69 for vehicles up to 7.5t)
driving (vehicles of 3.5 tonnes and over) for each attendance on a Saturday/Sunday payable only to employees on SA who are not in receipt of assigned LGV allowance.
OVERTIME and SCHEDULED ATTENDANCE
Overtime and Scheduled Attendance will be paid at standard non-pensionable cash rates per hour. These rates will not vary according to the time of day or day of the week, except for higher rates on Sundays and Bank Holidays.
Enhanced rates for SA will continue to reflect the benefits of stable and reliable cover. These will only be paid where the conditions of the existing national agreement are met (i.e. each attendance is scheduled to a nominated employee and substitute for the year, and is paid on the basis of hours actually worked, excluding breaks except of Sundays). SA will be limited to no more than 12 hours per employee in any week. Where this necessitates a review of local SA arrangements this must be completed by the implementation date.
The new adult rates (with overtime rates for employees aged 16 and 17 increased to 87.5% of these adult rates) from the date of introduction will be as follows, at 1999 rates:
Monday-Saturday overtime £7.05 per hour (for the first 10 hours during a week)
overtime £6.81 per hour (for hours worked over 10 per week)
SA £8.50 per hour
Sunday overtime £9.50 per hour SA £9.90 per hour
Bank and Public Holiday overtime £11.73 per hour
(alternatively a day off in lieu plus payment of £7.04 per hour may be taken for Holiday attendances of more than 2 hours).
Travelling Time £6.07 per hour
Sunday overtime and SA will remain pensionable for two years after 8 May 2000. In order to protect the pension position of employees who are aged 57 or over on 6 May 2002, these employees will retain pensionability of Sunday overtime and SA, on a personal reserved rights basis, until age 60 (or at the age at which they take their pension if later). The facility within existing pension rules to base final salary on the best thee consecutive years out of the last ten will provide some mart-time protection to employees aged over 50.
CHRISTMAS SUPPLEMENT
The existing Christmas Supplement will continue at its current value (between £42 and £100 maximum, pro-rata to conditioned hours) for all employees, but the payment date will be moved earlier than currently to the last payment date before Christmas each December. Eligibility will be linked to paid employment across the four week December bonus period used for PBS. From December 2001 the minimum full-time Supplement will increase to £60.
DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT
In those offices operating Delivery Remuneration schemes, the original elements of the Delivery Supplement will be separately identified and treated in exactly the same way as the equivalent elements of pay within the national package. This will ensure that all employees are treated on a fair and equal basis. Where the Supplement consists entirely of ex-UPAP this will mean that it will be replaced by the higher level of basis pay, as UPAP will have ceased. However the assessment of guaranteed pay under this agreement (see below) will include the amounts of Supplement actually paid to each employee.
EXISTING PHGs and STREAMLINE Levels 3-6
Existing employees in these grades will assimilate to the new single grade, which has a higher level of basic pay (many Streamline employees will also pick up the assigned LGV allowances). Permanent and substantive employees graded PHG or SL3,4,5 or 6 on 31 january 2000 will also receive the following enhancements on a personal basis:
an ongoing and fully pensionable Pay Supplement of £20 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours). This will be retained indefinitely on a frozen personal reserved rights basis whilst the employee remains in the new grade, provided that they do not move voluntarily to a job with a work content that would formerly have been graded entirely at PMN/woman/SL1-2 level prior to 1 April 2002.
enhanced shift allowances, retained indefinitely on the same basis as above but included within future pay awards, with nights retained on a fully pensionable basis so long as the employee continuously holds a job on the night shift, as follows:
Dawn shift (starts between 0201-0400) = £23.26 per week fully pensionable
Early shift (starts between 0401-0500) = £12.21 per week fully pensionable
Early shift (starts between 0501-0530) = £6.11 per week fully pensionable
Evening shift (finishes between 2000-2139) = £17.44 per week fully pensionable
Late shift (finishes between 2140-0159) = £36.05 per week fully pensionable
Night shift (three hours worked across 2300-0500) = £69.77 per week fully pensionable (as above)
enhanced rates for overtime and SA, retained on personal reserved rights as above and thereafter held on a fixed (mark-time) basis:
Monday-Saturday: overtime £8.04 per hour (for the first 10 hours during a week)
overtime £7.76 per hour (for hours worked over 10 per week)
SA £9.69 per hour
Sunday overtime £10.83 per hour SA £11.29 per hour
Bank and Public Holiday overtime £13.37 per hour
(alternatively a day off in lieu plus payment of £8.02 per hour may be taken for Holiday attendance of more than 2 hours).
Travelling Time £6.07 per hour
DRIVING ALLOWANCE
The new package will retain non-pensionable assigned allowances as personal reserved rights for the following employees:
£6.00 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours) for employees graded PMN/women, who are not receiving another assigned non-shift allowance, and whose substantive job on the 31 January 2000 involves driving a Royal Mail van (of less than 3.5 tonnes) for at least two conditioned hours per day. This will include reserve jobs dedicated to covering driving duties as of 31 January 2000;
£6.00 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours) for employees graded PMN/women or Streamline Level 4, who are not receiving another assigned non-shift allowance nor the £6.00 for van driving, and whose substantive job on 31 January 2000 involves driving a fork-lift truck for at least two conditioned hours per day. This will include reserve jobs dedicated to covering fork-lift duties as of 31 January 2000;
These allowances will be frozen and retained on a personal rights bases by these employees only so long as they remain in the same job as on 31 January 2000. There will be no payments for hours worked on overtime or Scheduled Attendance. These assigned allowances will continue to be paid during annual leave and other paid absence. Employees on rotations as of 31 January 2000 will receive an average payment.
Rates have gone up as this is 9 years old.
ASSIGNED ALLOWANCES
Most existing allowances have been absorbed within the higher level of basic pay, which will now reflect and reward the broader range of skills covered by the new grade. Nevertheless there remain some specific areas where pensionable assigned allowances will be paid, on conditioned hours only, to reflect the additional qualifications or special circumstances required, as follows:
LGV driving (vehicles plated over 7.5 tonnes) £33.66 per week
LGV driving (vehicles plated 3.50 tonnes to 7.5 tonnes) £23.46 per week
Advanced TPM £18.36 per week
Postbus (PSV licensed) driving £10.20 per weekTPO Duty £46.00 per week
Leadership Allowance (incl. TPO in charge) £4.84 per week (at least 2 hours booked off)
Jobs with scheduled Rural Waiting Time £7.90 (at least 3 hrs), £8.98 (at least 4 hrs)
Apart from the Leadership Allowance which may be combined with another allowance in certain circumstances (e.g. with TPO Duty for “TPO in charge”), no more than one of these assigned allowances may be claimed by any employee during any week, on top of shift allowance due. Employees on rotations will receive an average payment reflecting the average of their various conditioned attendances.
No assigned allowance payments will be made for hours worked on overtime or SA.
For each ad hoc attendance within conditioned hours (except those arising from voluntary exchanges or swaps of attendance of less than a week) a one-off pensionable and contributory payment will be made, equal to the weekly amount divided by the number of attendances to which the employee is conditioned for that week. For temporary job changes lasting one week or more, allowances will be paid to each employee according the the attendance actually worked.
OTHER ALLOWANCES
In addition to the assigned allowances, there will be a number of intermittent non-pensionable allowances:
TPO bank holiday passenger £1.94 per hour
Training Allowance (non-school) on conditioned hours £18.36 per week
Weekend SA involving at least 3 hours LGV £6.97 (or £4.69 for vehicles up to 7.5t)
driving (vehicles of 3.5 tonnes and over) for each attendance on a Saturday/Sunday payable only to employees on SA who are not in receipt of assigned LGV allowance.
OVERTIME and SCHEDULED ATTENDANCE
Overtime and Scheduled Attendance will be paid at standard non-pensionable cash rates per hour. These rates will not vary according to the time of day or day of the week, except for higher rates on Sundays and Bank Holidays.
Enhanced rates for SA will continue to reflect the benefits of stable and reliable cover. These will only be paid where the conditions of the existing national agreement are met (i.e. each attendance is scheduled to a nominated employee and substitute for the year, and is paid on the basis of hours actually worked, excluding breaks except of Sundays). SA will be limited to no more than 12 hours per employee in any week. Where this necessitates a review of local SA arrangements this must be completed by the implementation date.
The new adult rates (with overtime rates for employees aged 16 and 17 increased to 87.5% of these adult rates) from the date of introduction will be as follows, at 1999 rates:
Monday-Saturday overtime £7.05 per hour (for the first 10 hours during a week)
overtime £6.81 per hour (for hours worked over 10 per week)
SA £8.50 per hour
Sunday overtime £9.50 per hour SA £9.90 per hour
Bank and Public Holiday overtime £11.73 per hour
(alternatively a day off in lieu plus payment of £7.04 per hour may be taken for Holiday attendances of more than 2 hours).
Travelling Time £6.07 per hour
Sunday overtime and SA will remain pensionable for two years after 8 May 2000. In order to protect the pension position of employees who are aged 57 or over on 6 May 2002, these employees will retain pensionability of Sunday overtime and SA, on a personal reserved rights basis, until age 60 (or at the age at which they take their pension if later). The facility within existing pension rules to base final salary on the best thee consecutive years out of the last ten will provide some mart-time protection to employees aged over 50.
CHRISTMAS SUPPLEMENT
The existing Christmas Supplement will continue at its current value (between £42 and £100 maximum, pro-rata to conditioned hours) for all employees, but the payment date will be moved earlier than currently to the last payment date before Christmas each December. Eligibility will be linked to paid employment across the four week December bonus period used for PBS. From December 2001 the minimum full-time Supplement will increase to £60.
DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT
In those offices operating Delivery Remuneration schemes, the original elements of the Delivery Supplement will be separately identified and treated in exactly the same way as the equivalent elements of pay within the national package. This will ensure that all employees are treated on a fair and equal basis. Where the Supplement consists entirely of ex-UPAP this will mean that it will be replaced by the higher level of basis pay, as UPAP will have ceased. However the assessment of guaranteed pay under this agreement (see below) will include the amounts of Supplement actually paid to each employee.
EXISTING PHGs and STREAMLINE Levels 3-6
Existing employees in these grades will assimilate to the new single grade, which has a higher level of basic pay (many Streamline employees will also pick up the assigned LGV allowances). Permanent and substantive employees graded PHG or SL3,4,5 or 6 on 31 january 2000 will also receive the following enhancements on a personal basis:
an ongoing and fully pensionable Pay Supplement of £20 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours). This will be retained indefinitely on a frozen personal reserved rights basis whilst the employee remains in the new grade, provided that they do not move voluntarily to a job with a work content that would formerly have been graded entirely at PMN/woman/SL1-2 level prior to 1 April 2002.
enhanced shift allowances, retained indefinitely on the same basis as above but included within future pay awards, with nights retained on a fully pensionable basis so long as the employee continuously holds a job on the night shift, as follows:
Dawn shift (starts between 0201-0400) = £23.26 per week fully pensionable
Early shift (starts between 0401-0500) = £12.21 per week fully pensionable
Early shift (starts between 0501-0530) = £6.11 per week fully pensionable
Evening shift (finishes between 2000-2139) = £17.44 per week fully pensionable
Late shift (finishes between 2140-0159) = £36.05 per week fully pensionable
Night shift (three hours worked across 2300-0500) = £69.77 per week fully pensionable (as above)
enhanced rates for overtime and SA, retained on personal reserved rights as above and thereafter held on a fixed (mark-time) basis:
Monday-Saturday: overtime £8.04 per hour (for the first 10 hours during a week)
overtime £7.76 per hour (for hours worked over 10 per week)
SA £9.69 per hour
Sunday overtime £10.83 per hour SA £11.29 per hour
Bank and Public Holiday overtime £13.37 per hour
(alternatively a day off in lieu plus payment of £8.02 per hour may be taken for Holiday attendance of more than 2 hours).
Travelling Time £6.07 per hour
DRIVING ALLOWANCE
The new package will retain non-pensionable assigned allowances as personal reserved rights for the following employees:
£6.00 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours) for employees graded PMN/women, who are not receiving another assigned non-shift allowance, and whose substantive job on the 31 January 2000 involves driving a Royal Mail van (of less than 3.5 tonnes) for at least two conditioned hours per day. This will include reserve jobs dedicated to covering driving duties as of 31 January 2000;
£6.00 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours) for employees graded PMN/women or Streamline Level 4, who are not receiving another assigned non-shift allowance nor the £6.00 for van driving, and whose substantive job on 31 January 2000 involves driving a fork-lift truck for at least two conditioned hours per day. This will include reserve jobs dedicated to covering fork-lift duties as of 31 January 2000;
These allowances will be frozen and retained on a personal rights bases by these employees only so long as they remain in the same job as on 31 January 2000. There will be no payments for hours worked on overtime or Scheduled Attendance. These assigned allowances will continue to be paid during annual leave and other paid absence. Employees on rotations as of 31 January 2000 will receive an average payment.
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iceman2
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Re: Driving Allowance
man thats a bit long
All i want to know is i have been driving a ldv max all this year. i have to drop 3 guys off and there bikes then drop off there bags then go onto packets . i have only been working for royal mail for 5 years so should i be getting any driving allownance ? and if so how much ?
Are there any drivers on here who do the same duty and get driving allowances ? :cfo
All i want to know is i have been driving a ldv max all this year. i have to drop 3 guys off and there bikes then drop off there bags then go onto packets . i have only been working for royal mail for 5 years so should i be getting any driving allownance ? and if so how much ?
Are there any drivers on here who do the same duty and get driving allowances ? :cfo
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Stormproof
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Re: Driving Allowance
You only get driving allowance for the larger Maxus van i.e. the ones with 2 rows of seats in the back. No other allowances are payable for other vans.
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
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iceman2
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Re: Driving Allowance
i drive the ldv maxus but it only has one row of seats behind the driver then the rest of the room is for the bikes does that count?Stormproof wrote:You only get driving allowance for the larger Maxus van i.e. the ones with 2 rows of seats in the back. No other allowances are payable for other vans.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Driving Allowance
Yesiceman2 wrote:i drive the ldv maxus but it only has one row of seats behind the driver then the rest of the room is for the bikes does that count?Stormproof wrote:You only get driving allowance for the larger Maxus van i.e. the ones with 2 rows of seats in the back. No other allowances are payable for other vans.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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iceman2
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Re: Driving Allowance
POSTMAN wrote:Yesiceman2 wrote:i drive the ldv maxus but it only has one row of seats behind the driver then the rest of the room is for the bikes does that count?Stormproof wrote:You only get driving allowance for the larger Maxus van i.e. the ones with 2 rows of seats in the back. No other allowances are payable for other vans.
asked my boss today and he said you get no driving allowence for driving the ldv maxus van what should i do now ?
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dpb
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Re: Driving Allowance
most Maxus are now plated at under 3 and a half ton (3500Kg) maximum authorised mass(MAM) I think most are something like 2800Kg . If you look at the silver plate or sticker revealed when you open the door (either drivers or passangers door?) it will tell you on there.
As the vehicles are plated at less than 3500kg only the old reserved rights driving allowance will be payable £6 ish, and only paid to reserve rights drivers who were in receipt of the old driving allwance when the way forward was agreed in early 2000.
As the vehicles are plated at less than 3500kg only the old reserved rights driving allowance will be payable £6 ish, and only paid to reserve rights drivers who were in receipt of the old driving allwance when the way forward was agreed in early 2000.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Driving Allowance
Sorry miss read you,i thought you we're talking about high tops.iceman2 wrote:POSTMAN wrote:Yesiceman2 wrote:i drive the ldv maxus but it only has one row of seats behind the driver then the rest of the room is for the bikes does that count?Stormproof wrote:You only get driving allowance for the larger Maxus van i.e. the ones with 2 rows of seats in the back. No other allowances are payable for other vans.
asked my boss today and he said you get no driving allowence for driving the ldv maxus van what should i do now ?
dpb is right.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.