later start times

jan · Post by **jan** » 05 Jul 2007, 17:40

hiya we've now been told that as our first van wont be until 6 am not 4 am we have to bring in later start times between 6-7am even though i've been told it's still in the hands of the union!!!!!! but if they throw it out again we still are stuck on later start times. can we legally turn up for work at 5am as normal or has management got their own way.. HELP as our union rep is on his jollies at the moment and our office is resigned to do as it's told!!!!

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 05 Jul 2007, 17:44

For God's sake never go in before your time because it's what they want (people coming in even earlier to throw in), don't give them anything.

nelson · Post by **nelson** » 05 Jul 2007, 18:33

Jan Ask advice from the Area Rep

As it will have to go to disagreement

bristolchris · Post by **bristolchris** » 05 Jul 2007, 19:45

nelson wrote:Jan Ask advice from the Area Rep As it will have to go to disagreement

Jan as Nelson says, Just `Head up a letter` that says (Disagreement: `To Later Start Times` - and it can be as short as this) write it by hand if you need, and submit it to the Dom. Say its on behalf of the Office/CWU because the Rep is on Hol`s. It`s not a big deal, and anyone in the office can do it, if this makes you nervous.

Tamsky · Post by **Tamsky** » 06 Jul 2007, 15:07

No change can take place in a unit (later start times) until the IR framework has been exhausted.
Stage 1 by unit rep. Status quo prevails.
Stage 2 by Aea Rep. Status quo prevails if no agreement.
Stage 3 at Divisional level.
If no agreement can be referred nationally
Royal Mail should advise CWU with 28 days notice that they intend to alter start times without agreement, by executive action.
Units can request a Rule 13 ballot for industrial action in response.
Anyway your contract of employment cannot be changed without your consent, individually or collectively.

This is as I understand it
:cfo

mrlovepantsuk · Post by **mrlovepantsuk** » 06 Jul 2007, 16:01

we got up a petition in our office with only about 4 people not signing it, copies were sent to the dom and area union rep. our rep also sent a letter of disagreement but the dom still insits it will be coming in.

I may have to consider my future in the company if it does come in due to childcare issues.

ROCKY · Post by **ROCKY** » 06 Jul 2007, 16:18

you and a few thousand others have childcare problems with later starts probably why they are doing it to try and get rid of some more full timers

mrlovepantsuk · Post by **mrlovepantsuk** » 06 Jul 2007, 16:28

our dom says he doesn't want it because of the same reason but still touts the company line.

ROCKY · Post by **ROCKY** » 06 Jul 2007, 16:47

we aint been told sod all yet probably tell us the day before

mrlovepantsuk · Post by **mrlovepantsuk** » 06 Jul 2007, 16:49

gives you less time to fight against it.