ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

A different slant on strike breakers....

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
greynut
Posts: 334
Joined: 09 Nov 2007, 15:36
Location: Shitsville

A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by greynut »

There vare a lot of posts on here regarding people breaking picket lines and working while others are striking.....

Heres my point.

Two years ago I voted Yes to industrial action and then voted No to a return to work, against the CWU's advice. If you remember the CWU recommended we accept the 2007 pay and modernisation deal. I was outvoted 60-40%. I was very unhappy about this and posted that I had read the terms of the pay and modernisation deal from front to back (unlike my CWU rep) and that in my view it would give management the power to implement anything they wanted. I argued that duties would change and we would suffer in the longer term only for a small short term benefit. :cfo :mfo

Well, the tirade of abuse I got from the yes voters was overwhelming.

Well now I watch and see a company in the early part of meltdown. All because we are fed up with the bullying and non discussed implementation of so called modernisation.

Well my friends, I would never cross a picket line, but I genuinely feel that those who do might have voted against this in the first place, be well out of pocket and do not want to be out of pocket any longer, simply because the last time they voted to strike they got shafted.

So lets stop talking about strike breakers and strike breakers and use the energy to beat this ridiculously over paid, under worked and over rated Royal management. :mfo :cfo
coxie
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 1336
Joined: 09 Oct 2009, 14:57
Gender: Male

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by coxie »

to put another spin on it i believe the union know the accepted a bad deal last time and should have asked in more depth exactly what modernisation means and how the royal mail will go about it. They seem to be standing their ground better this time.
kwikpost
Posts: 378
Joined: 19 Jan 2007, 16:23

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by kwikpost »

i have to agree our union has a lot to answer for. the bad deal we're now striking against for one. london will be on it's 18th strike day tomorrow. but it wasn't untill the national strike that any real headway was made. why the hell did the union keep on calling london strike day's no full well nothing was going to happen untill everyone was out.
Huxon
Posts: 21
Joined: 09 Jun 2009, 20:52
Gender: Male

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by Huxon »

I for one would like to know exactly what these guys are getting paid and any perks they are getting.
HESS
Posts: 133
Joined: 17 Sep 2009, 20:29
Gender: Male

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by HESS »

I understand your point of view and do not take this as an attack......but we are using our energy against management as we speak..!! In roughly 5hrs I will be joining the picket-line at my D.O.,an office which is a helluva lot stronger because we have a 100% turnout..!! :Applause This is the reason these strike-breakers are getting such a hard time....because, can you imagine Croziers/Higsons faces if we had 100% returned ballot papers with 100% 'yes' vote.....? We would have a lot better hand to bargain with....these strike-breakers give management the slightest glimmer of hope...and mention them every chance they get....!!! So...personally I ain't got time for any one of them.....let them rot...!!!!
hairyjack
Posts: 165
Joined: 23 Feb 2009, 19:41
Gender: Male
Location: Past caring.

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by hairyjack »

:cuppa I have to agree with HESS. 100% return would give RM no room for maneuver. The dispute could of been over in no time at all. Im on holiday this week but i'll be on the line in the morning. Lets have a bit of commitment eh! :wave
Godric
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 855
Joined: 17 Oct 2009, 12:08
Gender: Male
Location: The Kingdom of Alba

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by Godric »

HESS wrote:I understand your point of view and do not take this as an attack......but we are using our energy against management as we speak..!! In roughly 5hrs I will be joining the picket-line at my D.O.,an office which is a helluva lot stronger because we have a 100% turnout..!! :Applause This is the reason these strike-breakers are getting such a hard time....because, can you imagine Croziers/Higsons faces if we had 100% returned ballot papers with 100% 'yes' vote.....? We would have a lot better hand to bargain with....these strike-breakers give management the slightest glimmer of hope...and mention them every chance they get....!!! So...personally I ain't got time for any one of them.....let them rot...!!!!

:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause

couldn't put it better myself Hess Image
"Vi har haft århundraden av kärlek och tillit till varandra."
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by fishtank »

kwikpost wrote:i have to agree our union has a lot to answer for. the bad deal we're now striking against for one. london will be on it's 18th strike day tomorrow. but it wasn't untill the national strike that any real headway was made. why the hell did the union keep on calling london strike day's no full well nothing was going to happen untill everyone was out.
They kept the local IA(Not just London) going so that they could get close enough to Christmas to exert the maximum pressure.

That's why some people on this site go "yeah :nana :nana :nana wer'e on strike"

And some of us go "Here we go again :nervous "

BTW don't think i'm anti strike i'm sitten here with glue and scissors making CWU placards. :Very Happy
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
Mangonuts
Posts: 19
Joined: 21 Oct 2009, 17:08
Gender: Male

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by Mangonuts »

Exactly! Having been shafted by the union/employer last time only a Trotsky would carry on with the present o
pen ended industrial action without a grumble, especially as its clearly 6 months too early! Watch 'The men who built the Liners' on BBC4 iPlayer if you want to see how its all going to end!
norbert
Posts: 3027
Joined: 15 Jan 2008, 01:46

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by norbert »

:Applause :Applause
pirate
Posts: 39
Joined: 28 Oct 2009, 17:59
Gender: Male
Location: on board queen ann's revenge.

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by pirate »

hairyjack wrote::cuppa I have to agree with HESS. 100% return would give RM no room for maneuver. The dispute could of been over in no time at all. Im on holiday this week but i'll be on the line in the morning. Lets have a bit of commitment eh! :wave
yea iv always supported but never got actively involved, this time im on the picket lines, not use my car anymore taking all my breaks and working to my time. :nana :mfo
pain is weakness leaving the body
Body Beyond Repair
Posts: 327
Joined: 11 Nov 2007, 20:22

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by Body Beyond Repair »

HESS wrote:I understand your point of view and do not take this as an attack......but we are using our energy against management as we speak..!! In roughly 5hrs I will be joining the picket-line at my D.O.,an office which is a helluva lot stronger because we have a 100% turnout..!! :Applause This is the reason these strike-breakers are getting such a hard time....because, can you imagine Croziers/Higsons faces if we had 100% returned ballot papers with 100% 'yes' vote.....? We would have a lot better hand to bargain with....these strike-breakers give management the slightest glimmer of hope...and mention them every chance they get....!!! So...personally I ain't got time for any one of them.....let them rot...!!!!
WELL SAID MATE !!!!! :Applause
Pat Ostman
Posts: 2797
Joined: 17 Sep 2008, 21:53
Gender: Male
Location: In the Line Managers office being screwed over.

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by Pat Ostman »

Godric wrote:
HESS wrote:I understand your point of view and do not take this as an attack......but we are using our energy against management as we speak..!! In roughly 5hrs I will be joining the picket-line at my D.O.,an office which is a helluva lot stronger because we have a 100% turnout..!! :Applause This is the reason these strike-breakers are getting such a hard time....because, can you imagine Croziers/Higsons faces if we had 100% returned ballot papers with 100% 'yes' vote.....? We would have a lot better hand to bargain with....these strike-breakers give management the slightest glimmer of hope...and mention them every chance they get....!!! So...personally I ain't got time for any one of them.....let them rot...!!!!

:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause

couldn't put it better myself Hess Image
Agreed :Applause :Applause :Applause
Run, rabbit run. Dig that hole, forget the sun.
And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
greynut
Posts: 334
Joined: 09 Nov 2007, 15:36
Location: Shitsville

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by greynut »

IPS wrote:
Godric wrote:
HESS wrote:I understand your point of view and do not take this as an attack......but we are using our energy against management as we speak..!! In roughly 5hrs I will be joining the picket-line at my D.O.,an office which is a helluva lot stronger because we have a 100% turnout..!! :Applause This is the reason these strike-breakers are getting such a hard time....because, can you imagine Croziers/Higsons faces if we had 100% returned ballot papers with 100% 'yes' vote.....? We would have a lot better hand to bargain with....these strike-breakers give management the slightest glimmer of hope...and mention them every chance they get....!!! So...personally I ain't got time for any one of them.....let them rot...!!!!

:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause

couldn't put it better myself Hess Image
Agreed :Applause :Applause :Applause
Totally undestand and my post was to see what the general opinion was. My gut feeling is that we are pissed off having to strike but willsee it through to the end. And its the right way, I was just thinking that there is a lot of energy involved digging out strike breakers. But it does seem that the majprity are doing this the right way. Good luck everybody............. :mfo :cfo
oneweepostiee
Posts: 25
Joined: 31 Oct 2009, 16:24
Gender: Male

Re: A different slant on strike breakers....

Post by oneweepostiee »

strike breakers will end up being the new mangers so if we don’t get a good deal ,get the ky gel out boys and girls to make the A** F******* were gona get less painful happened in our office when we went out for 20 odd days straight all the yarbs got promoted