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" Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

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madelin4
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" Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by madelin4 »

I just cannot get my head around people who say they cannot afford to strike :hmmmm Is it not about morals?? I could not afford to strike a few years back but I did because it was the right thing to do all stick together.

Do you all feel the same? I understand family to feed , I had a lot of bills house and single and it did take me a while to get back on my feet last time :sad: Everyone to there own but I think it is selfish expecting the rest of co-workers to take the lose while a strike breaker goes in and works :evil/mad
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by baldrick »

Hi madelin4 :wave
Good to see you're keeping in touch. :Very Happy
You are right, people need to see beyond their next paypacket, and
think of where they will be next year if Crozier gets his way.
madelin4
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by madelin4 »

Thanks for the welcome Baldrick :Very Happy I didnt think anyone missed me :Very Happy Just that an old ex co-worker fell out with me and is a strike breaker and thinks that it is ok to do it! :evil/mad Im not a postie anymore but deep down I will always have postie habits like getting annoyed at slow walkers and still walk like im in a mad rush.. :dance

Just think that the ex co worker has a really bad attitude to the whole thing, and me being a CWU girl did not agree. Even if I was not CWU friendly I still think crossing any picket line is wrong!!!

Yes, I come on here to see whats happening and I support you all :Applause
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by baldrick »

I think all of us who have been on here a while remember and miss you. :sad:
But glad to hear you're doing OK outside RM. :Very Happy
Do keep in touch and let us know how you are. And thanks for your support. :Applause
madelin4
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by madelin4 »

Thanks. I will do :Very Happy I do still miss being a postwoman :sad: But I knew it was time to move on till what I really wanted to do b4 I got to old to do anything else or b4 I knocked one of those DOM's out...Ha... If I see a picket down this way I will join in!! Good luck pal.
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by DGP1 »

hello Mads :wave :wave :wave :wave
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by DGP1 »

I also don't agree with those who say 'I can't afford to strike' especially when those people are the ones who will be the worst affected (the main OT grabbers etc.), I have little sympathy for them because if they'd grow a set of balls they would be out fighting to ensure a secure and equitable work/life balance.
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
madelin4
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by madelin4 »

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:hello Mads :wave :wave :wave :wave

Hey Disgruntledpostie!!Kick his :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: You know what I mean..Ha
madelin4
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

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For trying to change your D/O to Friday :evil/mad :evil/mad :evil/mad
tmac
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by tmac »

you cant afford not to if you let the bastards win we are f****d :mfo especialy the c***
saru
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by saru »

I'm in the same position as madelin4, left some time ago & glad I did! Didn't mind the job, just the people I worked with! I went out last time, my husband & me were the only ones out of an office of 50. I hope everyone there gets loaded with work & I hope everyone here wins the battle! :wink:

On another note, I was in the canteen the other day & someone asked me (knowing I was an ex-postie) what I thought of the strikes. I was glad to enlighten him & by the time I'd finished, I had 1/2 dozen others firing questions at me which I was glad :dance to answer. I'll keep on spreading the word whereever I can.
Lounge Lizard
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by Lounge Lizard »

How many of those that say they can't afford to strike already buy the extra holiday up to six weeks a year ?
I can't afford more than four and a half weeks holiday a year but somehow I will afford to go on a strike with a 76% vote in favour.
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by pinstripe »

Hell, I'm part time and I can't afford to strike, wife, kids, Christmas coming, bills and rent. Just like most people.
But let's put this in perspective and take just one of RM's plans for the future, the removal of d2d payments (Now I hate these things but I need the money) at a cost to me of approx £1100 per year, every year. OR IN MORE STARK TERMS APPROX 25 DAYS PAY EVERY YEAR.

Now who can NOT afford to strike?
Lounge Lizard
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by Lounge Lizard »

Part time, so you've less to lose by being on strike ! :shock:
Seriously though, everyone chooses what they can and can't afford.
I can say that I can't afford to own a car or take foreign holidays, but I must admit to being able to afford a pint or two now and then that others might miss out on. :Very Happy
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Re: " Can't afford to strike"!! Selfish or what!

Post by Komet »

I have always thought that the CWU leadership have missed a trick a number of times over the years calling strike action - this time being no exception.

This time especially there seems to be a groundswell of opinion against the RM workers especially as Christmas is coming etc. This is not good as public sympathy could well be reduced.

I have always thought that a work to rule - no OT - would be the way to go. Nobody would lose any money except that earnt through overtime. There would be a far greater willingness amongst the workforce to comply to this meaning a gretaer message sent to the RM aristocracy and the government. The public would be kept onside as would most of the press also because it would prove that the RM need bodies to make the operation work properly. The idea to reduce costs by reducing the workforce is wrong - we all know this - the place only works because of all the OT, whether paid or unpaid. To work only the hours you are paid for - a requirement of the RM management by the way - would lead to backlogs of mail and a reduction in service but it would highlight the issues so lodly braodcast by the CWU that the indistry needs the jobs. To go straight for the strike is to play directly into the hands of the RM who can then label the CWU and its members as uncaring.

I have always believed that the Royal Mail - including the Post Office - is a service and not an industry. That said even a service can and should be modernized for a modern world. Unfortunatley the word profit gets dragged into it which usually means a few people make a killing whilst the rest get screwed. It should be one of the jobs of the CWU to highlight the shortcomings of any RM plans by the best means possible. A work to rule would do that ..... a straight out strike is folly IMO and cedes any moral high ground to the RM by saying the worforce and CWU do not want to modernize and wish only to disrupt the public irrespective of any claims they may make. To stay in the job doing only what you are paid to do would regain that high ground expecially when (not if) it was noticed the reason the service was failing was because there were not enough workers.

If I am wrong then please tell me why.