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Dropped the ball
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Cut Off King
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Dropped the ball
Personaly I think that the CWU have again dropped the ball over this dispute.
1- Too slow to see what was happening on the ground as reguards Exec. action etc.
2- Did not know the mood of the members who are suffering at RM's hands
3- Too slow to ballot members
4- Too slow to anounce strke dates
5- Too ready to give RM extra chances
All of this just gives RM more time to prepair & counter the action ( employ casuals / set up warehouses for sorting etc. more time to brief the public about the "nasty CWU who are causing all the problems " )
The public are on the whole not that interested in our terms & conditions, they just believe whatever the newspapers tell them. So the image of CWU looking nice by not rushing ahead into strikes will not last long in the publics mind, they just want their post.
If we had stood up to RM nationaly months ago, we would have had an agreement by now
What do you think?
Have I got it all wrong?
Am I missing the big picture?
1- Too slow to see what was happening on the ground as reguards Exec. action etc.
2- Did not know the mood of the members who are suffering at RM's hands
3- Too slow to ballot members
4- Too slow to anounce strke dates
5- Too ready to give RM extra chances
All of this just gives RM more time to prepair & counter the action ( employ casuals / set up warehouses for sorting etc. more time to brief the public about the "nasty CWU who are causing all the problems " )
The public are on the whole not that interested in our terms & conditions, they just believe whatever the newspapers tell them. So the image of CWU looking nice by not rushing ahead into strikes will not last long in the publics mind, they just want their post.
If we had stood up to RM nationaly months ago, we would have had an agreement by now
What do you think?
Have I got it all wrong?
Am I missing the big picture?
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postghost
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Re: Dropped the ball
Nah, you're pretty much spot on mate.
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k979aaa
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Re: Dropped the ball
A strike in the summer would have taken too much from all in reaching a swift and defiant conclusion in the time allowed!.
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steven100
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Re: Dropped the ball
This is the correct time for industrial action, increase in mail and xmas coming. I'd rather see CWU announce 48 hrs all out strike, continuing til agreement. Even through December. The public don't support so who cares. And regards to businesses moving to other companies, they'd probably move anyway, cheaper deal.
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DirtyHarry
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Re: Dropped the ball
When Royal Mail management provoked first Scotland, then London, into taking strike action many months ago, they thought the resolve of the men and women in those regions would break during the summer months, the timing of management's provocation was deliberate, break Scotland, break London, they break the backbone of the union. They got it spectacularly wrong. Now, the whole nation is involved in this dispute, and their chances on breaking the resolve of the nation's postal workers, united? That's now up to all of us, together.
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Body Beyond Repair
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Re: Dropped the ball
You are spot on cut off king and i for one still think there will be no national strike,hope i'm wrong though as there needs to be some sort of fightback but your right it should have happened months ago.
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dave7634
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Re: Dropped the ball
They always say this and then, when the dust settles they sneek back - nobody can beat us on price.steven100 wrote:And regards to businesses moving to other companies, they'd probably move anyway, cheaper deal.
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jcjd
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Re: Dropped the ball
Their still at it in london, i know of 1 office in london where no postmen were allowed out on delivery today because of the huge backlog we've created down here, they were kept in to sort and prep all day, deliveries were done by loads of casuals and the've even had the IB out delivering packets but they won't break us and were back on the picket lines tomorrowDirtyHarry wrote:When Royal Mail management provoked first Scotland, then London, into taking strike action many months ago, they thought the resolve of the men and women in those regions would break during the summer months, the timing of management's provocation was deliberate, break Scotland, break London, they break the backbone of the union. They got it spectacularly wrong. Now, the whole nation is involved in this dispute, and their chances on breaking the resolve of the nation's postal workers, united? That's now up to all of us, together.
London Postman
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harry09
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Re: Dropped the ball
What are they playing at.. we had the opposite today sorted for only an hour? had sod all to take out as its still sitting there in the office, there even trying to clear the mail and we aint even out on strike... You wouldnt think it looking in our office though
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stokes11eg
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Re: Dropped the ball
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REDLETTER
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Re: Dropped the ball
Bit of deja vu i think!stokes11eg wrote:How right you are, cut off King---I still have this horrible sinking feeling that C.W.U will let us down at the last minute---
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kwikpost
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Re: Dropped the ball
i think they hoped that a few local 1 day strike's would do the trick. just goes to show how much out of touch the union has become. the feeling in our office is along the line's of........ all they're worried about is lossing the £3 a week they get from each of us for doing f**k all.
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DirtyHarry
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Re: Dropped the ball
The backlog down here is amazing, it really does show what utter nonsense claims are that we're an old fashioned business with no place in a modern world where mail volumes are falling drastically.jcjd wrote: Their still at it in london, i know of 1 office in london where no postmen were allowed out on delivery today because of the huge backlog we've created down here, they were kept in to sort and prep all day, deliveries were done by loads of casuals and the've even had the IB out delivering packets but they won't break us and were back on the picket lines tomorrow
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dudleylicious
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Re: Dropped the ball
Well said DHDirtyHarry wrote:When Royal Mail management provoked first Scotland, then London, into taking strike action many months ago, they thought the resolve of the men and women in those regions would break during the summer months, the timing of management's provocation was deliberate, break Scotland, break London, they break the backbone of the union. They got it spectacularly wrong. Now, the whole nation is involved in this dispute, and their chances on breaking the resolve of the nation's postal workers, united? That's now up to all of us, together.
voted for Industrial Action .
I for one am very proud of the part Scotland no 2 ,my colleagues in the KY/FK, EH areas & my office has played in this dispute,we were in right at the start back in the spring & we will be there right to the finish.
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Cut Off King
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Re: Dropped the ball
Who said they do FA for us?kwikpost wrote:i think they hoped that a few local 1 day strike's would do the trick. just goes to show how much out of touch the union has become. the feeling in our office is along the line's of........ all they're worried about is lossing the £3 a week they get from each of us for doing f**k all.
If it wasn't for the CWU we would all be in the poo a long time ago
My point is that the speed to which they have reacted to this RM attack on the postal service & members is too slow