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Non CWU member - wants to strike

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Non CWU member (no idea why he doesn't want to join) would like to know how he stands on not coming in when we're on strike.
Am I rihgt in thinking that he can refuse to cross the line, or can RM sack him, for whatever they can make up, I'm sure we had a new starter last strike who hadn't join, not come in and he was OK, but it does seem as though RM are getting nastier this time around.
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Re: Non CWU member - wants to strike

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The chances are the manager will not know he's not a CWU member anyway,but he can join now or on the day and he will be covered by the CWU as such.
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Re: Non CWU member - wants to strike

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he can strike like the rest of us (members) but, as soon as he walks back in, the managers can suspend him for taking industrial action and would the union back him up ? Bollocks mate. join the union and then we will stick by you.
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Re: Non CWU member - wants to strike

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I did ask him if he wanted to join, and he didn't, I've no idea why, but as we had nearly 50% go in last time, any that I can get to support us, I'm grateful, I do think we'll have less going in this time, as we've just been informed we've got to save 3% of hours, no special leave, no lieu days - and of course no unauthourised OT, this has to be checked with area manager.
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Re: Non CWU member - wants to strike

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If he doesn't want to join, he,s out on his own. That's why we pay subs to our union. Don't worry about him, let him do what he wants and pay the consequencies.
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Re: Non CWU member - wants to strike

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http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... /DG_179248" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Industrial action by workers who are not trade union members

If you take part in industrial action when you are not a trade union member you are normally treated as taking part in unofficial action. This means that if you are dismissed while taking part in the action you normally have no right to complain of unfair dismissal.

You can still claim if the reason for your dismissal was automatically unfair.

You are treated as taking part in official action if both:

* members of a trade union are taking part in it
* the action is official industrial action taken by their trade union

This means that the law treats you in the same way as it treats trade union members. Your rights if you are dismissed depend on whether the industrial action is protected or unprotected and when you are dismissed.
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Re: Non CWU member - wants to strike

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... /DG_179248

Industrial action by workers who are not trade union members

If you take part in industrial action when you are not a trade union member you are normally treated as taking part in unofficial action. This means that if you are dismissed while taking part in the action you normally have no right to complain of unfair dismissal.

You can still claim if the reason for your dismissal was automatically unfair.

You are treated as taking part in official action if both:

* members of a trade union are taking part in it
* the action is official industrial action taken by their trade union

This means that the law treats you in the same way as it treats trade union members. Your rights if you are dismissed depend on whether the industrial action is protected or unprotected and when you are dismissed.

Thanks for that, I'll tell him he should be ok then, thanks again.
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Re: Non CWU member - wants to strike

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

just as a side point, there are people who work for rm who are legally not allowed to join a union, special police constables and comissioned territorial army officers are not allowed to be members of organisations that provide financial support to political parties even if the member withholds his levy
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Re: Non CWU member - wants to strike

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the guy is also ,ofcoarse perfectly within his rights to go to work as normal.but if he doesnt want to,he can book a day off,im sure the manager will let him...or just claim that he feels threatened crossing the picket line.. :shhhhh
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Re: Non CWU member - wants to strike

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We have people who are not CWU members for various reasons who don't come in during strikes.
It would be good if they did join the Union though.