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WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
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TrueBlueTerrier
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WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
Torapeach PM'd me with an excellent idea here it is.
While looking at the many posts on the forum some of which are very informative and others not so it is becoming more and more confusing to people who have been with RM just a short time.
Although we are all experiencing change in the work place and finding difficulties in doing the job with all the imposed changes there does not seem to be a consolidated topic for the changes in offices in a bullet-point list.
For example a what's changed in your office thread that could be informative to the casual user of forum sites and an easy way to compare the changes in offices nationwide.
So there you go - A bullet Point list to give us an idea of what changes are going on. (if you want to contribute but prefer not to post the information yourself then please PM me and I'll post it for you.
While looking at the many posts on the forum some of which are very informative and others not so it is becoming more and more confusing to people who have been with RM just a short time.
Although we are all experiencing change in the work place and finding difficulties in doing the job with all the imposed changes there does not seem to be a consolidated topic for the changes in offices in a bullet-point list.
For example a what's changed in your office thread that could be informative to the casual user of forum sites and an easy way to compare the changes in offices nationwide.
So there you go - A bullet Point list to give us an idea of what changes are going on. (if you want to contribute but prefer not to post the information yourself then please PM me and I'll post it for you.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
To start my Office:
Already Imposed/agreed
1. Summer Lapsing
2. Nights removed.
3. Pegasus 1 (with loss of duties)
4. half hour flexing
5. Longs and Shorts
6. Minus 30 hour contracts
7. Single day leave selection (in disagreement)
Soon to be imposed
1. Pegasus 2 (with loss of duties)
2. Lapsing all year.
3. BSI100 & IWT
Future changes we have been made aware of
1. Later starts and later last letter.
2. Saturday normal working day.
3. Walk sequencing.
Already Imposed/agreed
1. Summer Lapsing
2. Nights removed.
3. Pegasus 1 (with loss of duties)
4. half hour flexing
5. Longs and Shorts
6. Minus 30 hour contracts
7. Single day leave selection (in disagreement)
Soon to be imposed
1. Pegasus 2 (with loss of duties)
2. Lapsing all year.
3. BSI100 & IWT
Future changes we have been made aware of
1. Later starts and later last letter.
2. Saturday normal working day.
3. Walk sequencing.
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
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mandelsons_toenail
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Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
To start my Office:
Already Imposed/agreed
1. Summer Lapsing but now 3 day a week all year lapsing
2. Nights removed * sometimes 1-2 of the 3 are removed daily.
3. Pegasus last year but showed rounds were big so ignored
4. Longs and Shorts
5. 20 hour people given rounds, so ft rounds now pt as people leave/sacked
6. 5 hour people
Future changes we have been made aware of
1. Later starts and later last letter.
2. Saturday normal working day.
3. Walk sequencing.
Already Imposed/agreed
1. Summer Lapsing but now 3 day a week all year lapsing
2. Nights removed * sometimes 1-2 of the 3 are removed daily.
3. Pegasus last year but showed rounds were big so ignored
4. Longs and Shorts
5. 20 hour people given rounds, so ft rounds now pt as people leave/sacked
6. 5 hour people
Future changes we have been made aware of
1. Later starts and later last letter.
2. Saturday normal working day.
3. Walk sequencing.
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Phantom
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- Gender: Female
- Location: New York
Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
Already Imposed/agreed
1. Summer Lapsing but has paved the way for autumn/winter/spring cut offs
2. Nights removed 4 years ago
3. Pegasus 1 (with loss of 3 duties)
4. half hour flexing - scrapped due to pay back being requested at the end of duty time ie: finishing half an hour earlier
5. Longs and Shorts
Soon to be imposed
1. Pegasus 2 (with loss of 7 duties) - on hold due to facts and figures by RM having been plucked out of thin air
2. BSI100 & IWT - not sure about this, is this in every office?
3. Sheffield Mail Centre to get another IMP due to increase volume in mail
Future changes we have been made aware of
1. Last letter 3pm towns / 4pm rurals
1. Summer Lapsing but has paved the way for autumn/winter/spring cut offs
2. Nights removed 4 years ago
3. Pegasus 1 (with loss of 3 duties)
4. half hour flexing - scrapped due to pay back being requested at the end of duty time ie: finishing half an hour earlier
5. Longs and Shorts
Soon to be imposed
1. Pegasus 2 (with loss of 7 duties) - on hold due to facts and figures by RM having been plucked out of thin air
2. BSI100 & IWT - not sure about this, is this in every office?
3. Sheffield Mail Centre to get another IMP due to increase volume in mail
Future changes we have been made aware of
1. Last letter 3pm towns / 4pm rurals
Last edited by Phantom on 20 Sep 2009, 10:39, edited 1 time in total.
CUT OFF!!!
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POSTMAN
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Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
Future changes we have been made aware of
1. Moving from a 4 day week to a 5
2. 50+hrs to go
3. 40+ hrs SA to go,that's all of it
4 . Absorbing to start possibly due to going tio 5 day week.
1. Moving from a 4 day week to a 5
2. 50+hrs to go
3. 40+ hrs SA to go,that's all of it
4 . Absorbing to start possibly due to going tio 5 day week.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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chunk
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Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
1.night sorting gone
2.lapsed-duties/summer savings
3.flexing
4.introduction hybrid duties
5.planned phasing out of bicycles and introduction of van sharing. hows thats going to work?
6.Pegasus .don't know what revision .
7.increase in part timers
8.occasional borrowing or farming out of floaters with other offices !
2.lapsed-duties/summer savings
3.flexing
4.introduction hybrid duties
5.planned phasing out of bicycles and introduction of van sharing. hows thats going to work?
6.Pegasus .don't know what revision .
7.increase in part timers
8.occasional borrowing or farming out of floaters with other offices !
I'm a postman-and i know where you live.....
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k979aaa
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- Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
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- Location: THE NORTH
Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
AXED 3 DUTIES
TALK OF MORE LAPSING (CONFIRMED BY MANAGEMENT)
TALK OF LATER STARTS SOON
That is just one small part of our office!.
TALK OF MORE LAPSING (CONFIRMED BY MANAGEMENT)
TALK OF LATER STARTS SOON
That is just one small part of our office!.
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OnAFlyer
- Posts: 1938
- Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 14:24
- Gender: Male
Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
Already had:
Pegasus 1 (no duties lost)
Banking of hours (scrapped as hardly anyone banked anything and the ones that did never paid it all back anyway = should be otherwise known as 'how not to make your staff work hard')
Collapsing continuing into Autumn
30 mins flex, never really seen it used or needed
All night duties and all longs and shorts went years ago, delivery staff sort all mail as well as prepping p/t walks, which is why our average time on sorting is 90 mins - 2hrs.
To come - I assume lapsing all year round
Job overall - still easy.
Pegasus 1 (no duties lost)
Banking of hours (scrapped as hardly anyone banked anything and the ones that did never paid it all back anyway = should be otherwise known as 'how not to make your staff work hard')
Collapsing continuing into Autumn
30 mins flex, never really seen it used or needed
All night duties and all longs and shorts went years ago, delivery staff sort all mail as well as prepping p/t walks, which is why our average time on sorting is 90 mins - 2hrs.
To come - I assume lapsing all year round
Job overall - still easy.
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dados
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- Joined: 04 Sep 2009, 16:33
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- Location: leading the 5th column
Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
Already had Pegasus 1&2
Summer lapsing not lapsed yet
Absorption
p/t given own walks,f/t piecemeal duties
no more p/t to f/t
last f/t newbies given 6am starts,no long shorts for them (wonder why)
Summer lapsing not lapsed yet
Absorption
p/t given own walks,f/t piecemeal duties
no more p/t to f/t
last f/t newbies given 6am starts,no long shorts for them (wonder why)
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wingmanchillian
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- Joined: 28 Sep 2009, 15:58
- Gender: Male
Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
so far imposed/agreed,
sa's merged with walks, sa's then removed
two day a week lapsing
morning sa reduced
overtime amount reduced
ft walks given to pt employees
contracts of employment changed without notice
longs and shorts
later first letter
to come we got,
5 day a week lapsing all year (supposed to start this week but didn't today)
pegasus for the 2nd time
sa's merged with walks, sa's then removed
two day a week lapsing
morning sa reduced
overtime amount reduced
ft walks given to pt employees
contracts of employment changed without notice
longs and shorts
later first letter
to come we got,
5 day a week lapsing all year (supposed to start this week but didn't today)
pegasus for the 2nd time
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flaminmoses
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 05 Jul 2009, 14:17
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Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
we have at least 3 walks supposed to be done on absoption which dont get delivered at all some days.
2 of them have at least a 2 day backlog to still do.
a crazy idea which needs re thinking sharpish.
2 of them have at least a 2 day backlog to still do.
a crazy idea which needs re thinking sharpish.
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col456xyz
- Posts: 85
- Joined: 28 Jun 2007, 17:24
Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
in our office we have more or less got and agreed by union all as above posts.
so can some one answer me a question
what are going to go on strike for and hope to gain
so can some one answer me a question
what are going to go on strike for and hope to gain
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redspartapost
- Posts: 151
- Joined: 10 Jul 2009, 12:03
- Gender: Male
Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
in disagreement, but they want to remove 2 walks and make 7 out of the remaining 27 part time as well as 2 walks kept on stand by on days when the think its possible to lapse them.also want to take out 200 hours through evr and buy downs .so far only one of the senior men has accepted and finishes in 12 weeks with £50,000 to compensate 27 years service. no mention of later starts still 6 to 2 and 5 to 1 saturdays.have also been told they want another 10% saving next year which probaly leave 1 to sort packets 1 to sort letters and 1 to sort flats while everybody else preps the p/t walks
mind you thats quite close to whats happening allready, forgot to mention all new development to absorpted.
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POSTMAN
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Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
You should NOT of agreed to anything,this was the national stance,and many branches/offices have ignored it.col456xyz wrote:in our office we have more or less got and agreed by union all as above posts.
so can some one answer me a question
what are going to go on strike for and hope to gain
As for why strike,think of next year,the year after,the year after...........
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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col456xyz
- Posts: 85
- Joined: 28 Jun 2007, 17:24
Re: WHAT CHANGES ARE OCCURING IN YOUR OFFICE
we agreed because we were advised to by our reps,should have known better i suppose.
by the way voted yes anyway.sick of all this s**t.
but very dissapointed with the way its been handled by union.
by the way voted yes anyway.sick of all this s**t.
but very dissapointed with the way its been handled by union.