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Am I Daft Or Can someone explain why ?

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Am I Daft Or Can someone explain why ?

Post by Pegman »

We deliver a lot of mail for TNT, UK Mail etc.

None of these companies have a door to door delivery system.

So eg:

TNT charge the customer say 34p per letter first class

We charge TNT say 24p first class to deliver it for them.

So logically why don't we go direct to TNT's customers and say we will deliver your mail for say 28p

Am I missing something ?

It would cost these companies billions to set up a mail sorting and distribution system to rival ours, and for the amount they handle surely it wouldn't ever pay ?
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They probably charge less than RM but we still deliver..
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Post by pinstripe »

steven100 wrote:They probably charge less than RM but we still deliver..
We charge something like 13p, at least I think that was the figure doing the rounds a while back. So they can still undercut us and make a profit. The DSA price was set way to low.
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It's cos you are a stupid gullible working class twat who will work 2hrs a day for f**k all and will use his own motor vehicle and will forgoe his meal break,and will let some slimey rich bastard cream off five years of his working life to pay for some whopping bonuses and lots of quite pleasant holidays in the Seychelles or with those universally despised paupers ,the Rothschilds :chuckle
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We are not allowed at the moment to undercut the DSA leaches.
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Post by SW17 »

As far as I know we charge 14p an item for our competitors, this is worked out by deducting our procecessing charge from the 38p by postcunts and its meant to cost us £1 to deliver a letter, where is the fairness in that, not that us mere postslaves should have to bear this burden.
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Post by belle smith »

POSTMAN wrote:We are not allowed at the moment to undercut the DSA leaches.
yep postcomm won't allow because of our "domaniant position in the market".
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Post by Pat Ostman »

belle smith wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:We are not allowed at the moment to undercut the DSA leaches.
yep postcomm won't allow because of our "domaniant position in the market".
So let a load of foreign leachers strip us to the bone! Well done Labour! Next they'll enforce EU laws that the rival firms use to their advantage yet REFUSE to do in their own countries...

Oh wait..... :hmmmm

The only thing left for Labour to do now is use these very foreign firms to deliver government mail and preach to the people how we are losing money.
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Post by eian687 »

my DIM told me if we approach a customer eg sky and offer a rate of say 23p then TNT can go in and under cut us,
but if TNT go in and offer 23p we can offer say 22p but TNT can then go back and unercut us but we can only do one approach.
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Post by kanuuuuuu »

and RM wonder why theyre not maing the profits they want, its a bloody miracle we make anything when all is considered.

DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS CROZIER !!! stop making US pay for your INCOMPETENCE !!
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why dont they shove a broom up our arses so we can sweep the streets as we go :Applause :nana
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Post by kanuuuuuu »

as part of the strike we should only deliver RM items say f*ck it to the rest.
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Post by shadow »

POSTMAN wrote:We are not allowed at the moment to undercut the DSA leaches.
What happened to fair competition and all that. We should refuse TNTs mail then the companys won't have any choice but to come to us, thats if they want their junk delivered.
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Post by chunk »

shadow wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:We are not allowed at the moment to undercut the DSA leaches.
What happened to fair competition and all that. We should refuse TNTs mail then the companys won't have any choice but to come to us, thats if they want their junk delivered.
We cant refuse dsa because we have been told we must give our competitors access our network .
This in addition to giving them hugely a discounted rate of 14p an item.
This was governments\Brussels theory that it would give our competition a boost .The argument was that as a monopoly we had had an unfair advantage.
The irony? has it encouraged any companies to invest in delivery infrastructure,ie postman, post boxes or sorting offices.
no! because theres already profit to made in picking up a mail trays from customers and just dropping them on us.
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chunk wrote:
shadow wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:We are not allowed at the moment to undercut the DSA leaches.
What happened to fair competition and all that. We should refuse TNTs mail then the companys won't have any choice but to come to us, thats if they want their junk delivered.
We cant refuse dsa because we have been told we must give our competitors access our network .
This in addition to giving them hugely a discounted rate of 14p an item.
This was governments\Brussels theory that it would give our competition a boost .The argument was that as a monopoly we had had an unfair advantage.
The irony? has it encouraged any companies to invest in delivery infrastructure,ie postman, post boxes or sorting offices.
no! because theres already profit to made in picking up a mail trays from customers and just dropping them on us.
Your analysis is spot on but why have all the other EU governments not done as NEW LABOUR has done unto us and royalmail!.