Ballot paper

delboy · Post by **delboy** » 18 Sep 2009, 19:12

The wife was on the phone and needed a pen and paper, guess what was first to hand my ballot paper which now has a name and number wrote on the top, so will the paper still be ok to send of with my YES box crossed?..

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 18 Sep 2009, 19:13

Nope - it will be counted as "Spoiled"

Spoilt vote
In voting, a ballot is considered to be spoilt, void, null or informal if it is regarded by the election authorities to be invalid and thus not included in the tally during vote counting. This may be done accidentally or deliberately.Ways of spoiling a ballot include:

leaving the ballot blank (though some ballots include an explicit "none of the above" option)
completing the ballot in an illogical or unapproved manner,
such as: voting for more than one candidate in a plurality voting system
voting for too many or too few candidates in any system where such limits are specified
filling a preference ballot out of sequence, e.g 1-2-2-3-4 or 1-2-4-5-6,
or marking such a ballot with an "X"filling the ballot in a manner which is illegible or incomprehensible physically deforming ballots, especially those counted by machinewriting on the ballot, other than the minimal marks necessary to complete it, may be regarded as compromising the secrecy of the ballot due to the possibility of handwriting analysis establishing the voter's identity

delboy · Post by **delboy** » 18 Sep 2009, 19:17

Oh, no way

what if i just put lines through them?

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 18 Sep 2009, 19:18

still spoilt - but you could complete it on the off chance though I think they will still reject it.

delboy · Post by **delboy** » 18 Sep 2009, 19:22

Gutted, but will send it anyway and I'm confident that everyone else will be voting YES..

mclovin · Post by **mclovin** » 18 Sep 2009, 19:30

A spoilt vote gets counted as a NO vote.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 18 Sep 2009, 20:08

mclovin wrote:A spoilt vote gets counted as a NO vote.

Sorry but it gets counted as a "Spoilt Vote" as per the last figures on accepting the Pay and Mod

YES 51,260 64%

NO 28,894 36%

Spoilt 156

UK Law says spoilt votes have to be counted separately and cannot be included in the counts.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 18 Sep 2009, 20:09

mclovin wrote:A spoilt vote gets counted as a NO vote.

Only in RMs mind, otherwise it's not counted as a yes vote

mclovin · Post by **mclovin** » 18 Sep 2009, 20:47

Yeah I know this, just wanted delboy to panic for a couple of minutes.

seeker019 · Post by **seeker019** » 18 Sep 2009, 21:07

CWU & RM are now in talks, but the ballot needs to be done for a 'YES' vote to give CWU more power in the talks..............Looks Good.

ROCKS · Post by **ROCKS** » 18 Sep 2009, 21:11

could you not requst a new one?? no papers at wigan yet

Pegman · Post by **Pegman** » 18 Sep 2009, 21:16

ROCKS wrote:could you not requst a new one?? no papers at wigan yet

Only one ballot paper per member

NWpostie · Post by **NWpostie** » 18 Sep 2009, 23:48

slap the wife

Pat Ostman · Post by **Pat Ostman** » 19 Sep 2009, 00:58

Picked up a pen to mark with a cross the YES box and the pen didnt work, second pen I found was leaking and so I got ink all over my hands. The third pen's mechanism was broken (the push button at the top).

Someone trying to tell me something?

Forth pen worked like a charm! One more vote for yes!

mailsort6 · Post by **mailsort6** » 19 Sep 2009, 09:50

delboy wrote:Oh, no way what if i just put lines through them?

Use some tip-x liquid from a stationery shop to remove the name and number and still send it, you might get away with it.

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