cwu letter decision to ballot includes SHORTER WORKING WEEK

[jojojo]

on the letter sent by CWU asking for a yes vote mentions jobs, pensions, pay and a shorter working week. it says reducing working time will help maintain jobs and provide you with a managable workload. what does this ACTUALLY mean. are the CWU proposing we cut our hours? and at what cost to us? does anyone know what this proposal entails?

[k979aaa]

on the letter sent by CWU asking for a yes vote mentions jobs, pensions, pay and a shorter working week. it says reducing working time will help maintain jobs and provide you with a managable workload. what does this ACTUALLY mean. are the CWU proposing we cut our hours? and at what cost to us? does anyone know what this proposal entails?

No we have made royalmail record profits the very least they can do is honour their agreements and as and when new technology comes in it is for the benefit of all and not just royal mail we should not lose any pay nor entitlements breaks nor other privileges and rights!. ROYALMAIL SHOULD NOT LOSE SIGHT OF WHO DOES THE WORK WITHOUT THE GOOD WILL AND EFFORTS OF THE GOOD POSTMEN/WOMEN OF THIS LAND THEIR WOULD BE NO SERVICE NOR PROFIT!.

[jojojo]

i agree but just wondered what the CWU mean by putting about the shorter working week in their letter to ballot.

[DGP1]

A SWW would be better for me than a small pay increase and I'm sure that those who wanted to do more hours would also benefit from the increased hourly rate.

[upmyroad]

i agree but just wondered what the CWU mean by putting about the shorter working week in their letter to ballot.

I have heard the CWU wants a 35hr week with no loss of pay.

[k979aaa]

for me full time should be 35 hours with NO LOSS of pay and no pay rise for Two years and 3 D2Ds thrown in with no payment as a sweetner to acheive it and all 30+ hours made up to 35 hours with the pay to bring back a full time workforce. For any payrise in those Two years all bonuses should be scrapped (except LW ect.) to acheive a modest pay rise in those first Two years in a seperate agreement. Duties should be worked out at a seven hour working day with time taken from Saturday (No MS3 or DSA.) to make up for the busy Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday giving us the family friendly Saturday we wish to have and were promised by RM. A comprehensive review needs to take place on ALL deliveries in the UK using a FLEXIBLE working tool that has been agreed and developed by both the CWU and RM and a system of arbitration were the OPG a line manager and a CWU REP sorts out local problems in a fast effective maner where they all go on the walk and decide whats the problem ie more training for the postie or less drops ect and extra work passed on to those posties under worked. I think once mutial trust and respect comes back we could see a Royal Mail again being the envy of the world and that would be TRUE PROGRESS and MODERNISATION! As it stands i trust NOTHING they say and i just want to go to war and beat them!

WELL SAID But the one other thing that needs to be addressed is the bullying of the workforce which has come about since :lfo started and all these magical computers that say we can run at the speed of a race horse with the load of a pack horse (DONKEY) till this attitude of I KNOW BEST MANAGEMENT IS CHANGED NOTHING WILL EVER BE RIGHT IN ROYALMAIL!. :cfo

[dvbuk55]

A shorter working week has been advocated on this forum many times and is the obvious choice to maintain jobs, BUT it is not quite as simple as it sounds for many reasons but scenario one is where RM agrees to a 35 hr WORKING WEEK but withdraws the paid meal allowance, not out of the question with starting times later and later it would be argued that there are many workforces who work 8 hour days without paid meal breaks. The second scenario involves short or part time contracts, how would 22.5, 25, 27 hour contracts be lessened - it's already shorter than 35 hours. Would RM tailor deliveries to a shorter working week or expect you to do the same amount of work in a shorter space of time - answers on a postcard to A Crozier, and no swearing allowed.

[k979aaa]

A shorter working week has been advocated on this forum many times and is the obvious choice to maintain jobs, BUT it is not quite as simple as it sounds for many reasons but scenario one is where RM agrees to a 35 hr WORKING WEEK but withdraws the paid meal allowance, not out of the question with starting times later and later it would be argued that there are many workforces who work 8 hour days without paid meal breaks. The second scenario involves short or part time contracts, how would 22.5, 25, 27 hour contracts be lessened - it's already shorter than 35 hours. Would RM tailor deliveries to a shorter working week or expect you to do the same amount of work in a shorter space of time - answers on a postcard to A Crozier, and no swearing allowed.

For part time staff the hourly increase with no loss of breaks nor allowances or holidays!. Would be the answer and make them near full time in terms of wages holidays ect ect!.

[dvbuk55]

A shorter working week has been advocated on this forum many times and is the obvious choice to maintain jobs, BUT it is not quite as simple as it sounds for many reasons but scenario one is where RM agrees to a 35 hr WORKING WEEK but withdraws the paid meal allowance, not out of the question with starting times later and later it would be argued that there are many workforces who work 8 hour days without paid meal breaks. The second scenario involves short or part time contracts, how would 22.5, 25, 27 hour contracts be lessened - it's already shorter than 35 hours. Would RM tailor deliveries to a shorter working week or expect you to do the same amount of work in a shorter space of time - answers on a postcard to A Crozier, and no swearing allowed.

For part time staff the hourly increase with no loss of breaks nor allowances or holidays!. Would be the answer and make them near full time in terms of wages holidays ect ect!.

If you read your answer you will see why it is not as simple as it looks.

[k979aaa]

A shorter working week has been advocated on this forum many times and is the obvious choice to maintain jobs, BUT it is not quite as simple as it sounds for many reasons but scenario one is where RM agrees to a 35 hr WORKING WEEK but withdraws the paid meal allowance, not out of the question with starting times later and later it would be argued that there are many workforces who work 8 hour days without paid meal breaks. The second scenario involves short or part time contracts, how would 22.5, 25, 27 hour contracts be lessened - it's already shorter than 35 hours. Would RM tailor deliveries to a shorter working week or expect you to do the same amount of work in a shorter space of time - answers on a postcard to A Crozier, and no swearing allowed.

For part time staff the hourly increase with no loss of breaks nor allowances or holidays!. Would be the answer and make them near full time in terms of wages holidays ect ect!.

If you read your answer you will see why it is not as simple as it looks.

The SWW would help part time staff as long as holidays were protected for all and allowances as well as breaks this is why we need a national agreement for all staff part time and full time!.

[mailsort6]

Before the CWU sign any agreement with RM regarding a shorting working week they better make sure that 35 hours does represent full time hours because in most companies full time is usually 37 hours per week. Us posties do not want to be shafted with 35 hour contract which in the end will only represent part time hours and I hope that the 35 hours per week represents working 7 hours a day per week with paid meal breaks.

[jojojo]

Mailsort 6 lets hope they don't shaft us with this shorter working week. can't afford to go part time

[upmyroad]

Before the CWU sign any agreement with RM regarding a shorting working week they better make sure that 35 hours does represent full time hours because in most companies full time is usually 37 hours per week. Us posties do not want to be shafted with 35 hour contract which in the end will only represent part time hours and I hope that the 35 hours per week represents working 7 hours a day per week with paid meal breaks.

Rep told us they wanted a 7hr day including meal breaks. and no loss of pay.