stage or not stage

[royalwud]

Can my dom give me a stage (1) if my absence was an accident on duty ?????????

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Technically Speaking - yes - I think the line goes "AOD would normally be discounted" - if he thinks you are even partially at fault then he can issue the Stage and unfortunately there is no right of appeal.

This is where I think the stage system is wrong because issuing a stage can be perceived as a punishment but RM see it differently.

The good thing is if the Stage is issued and the reasons why are not strong enough then any eventual dismissal arising from the Stage process can be overturned at an ET.

[POSTMAN]

The AOD HAS to be investigated,if no investigation has happened,then he can't just say,it's your fault,you're gonna get a stage warning.

[k979aaa]

The AOD HAS to be investigated,if no investigation has happened,then he can't just say,it's your fault,you're gonna get a stage warning.

My accident was covered up in this way who investigates and are they not trying to reduce accidents on duty how convenient it is if it was found not to be an accident!.

[belle smith]

Technically Speaking - yes - I think the line goes "AOD would normally be discounted" - if he thinks you are even partially at fault then he can issue the Stage and unfortunately there is no right of appeal.

This is where I think the stage system is wrong because issuing a stage can be perceived as a punishment but RM see it differently.

The good thing is if the Stage is issued and the reasons why are not strong enough then any eventual dismissal arising from the Stage process can be overturned at an ET.

Think they can be appealed at stage 3 level prior to ET

[rockytony67]

If your stage is down to a AOD, and they issue it, take a out a grievance against the manager who issued you the stage, you may lose it, but at least it will be on your record and show that you did not agree with the decision and that they had gone against there own guidelines it may help you at a later date.

[yogibear]

Beware though, if out on delivery, you twist your ankle, managers are now saying it was an incident on duty. you couldn,t make it up.

[k979aaa]

Beware though, if out on delivery, you twist your ankle, managers are now saying it was an incident on duty. you couldn,t make it up.

incendent is how they word it even if it is their fault for not managing risks in door or out door!. But you will get the blame after their fact finding misfit's!. The three stooges do their investigations!.

[Bouncing Souls]

Beware though, if out on delivery, you twist your ankle, managers are now saying it was an incident on duty. you couldn,t make it up.

This was in the H+S section

'again as royal mail try to redefine words and their meanings check out the OED's definition

accident.
1.an unpleasant and unexpected event,
2. an event that happens by chance

incident
1.an event
2.a violent event, such as an attack
3.the occurence of dangerous or exciting events

accidents tend to produce unwanted results.'

[DOM]

Technically Speaking - yes - I think the line goes "AOD would normally be discounted" - if he thinks you are even partially at fault then he can issue the Stage and unfortunately there is no right of appeal.

This is where I think the stage system is wrong because issuing a stage can be perceived as a punishment but RM see it differently.

The good thing is if the Stage is issued and the reasons why are not strong enough then any eventual dismissal arising from the Stage process can be overturned at an ET.

Think they can be appealed at stage 3 level prior to ET

You are right, you can appeal at stage 3 level.

[belle smith]

Beware though, if out on delivery, you twist your ankle, managers are now saying it was an incident on duty. you couldn,t make it up.

Have heard that one too someone obviously found a thesauras.

[belle smith]

Technically Speaking - yes - I think the line goes "AOD would normally be discounted" - if he thinks you are even partially at fault then he can issue the Stage and unfortunately there is no right of appeal.

This is where I think the stage system is wrong because issuing a stage can be perceived as a punishment but RM see it differently.

The good thing is if the Stage is issued and the reasons why are not strong enough then any eventual dismissal arising from the Stage process can be overturned at an ET.

Think they can be appealed at stage 3 level prior to ET

You are right, you can appeal at stage 3 level.

thanks for the conformation.

[POSTMAN]

Technically Speaking - yes - I think the line goes "AOD would normally be discounted" - if he thinks you are even partially at fault then he can issue the Stage and unfortunately there is no right of appeal.

This is where I think the stage system is wrong because issuing a stage can be perceived as a punishment but RM see it differently.

The good thing is if the Stage is issued and the reasons why are not strong enough then any eventual dismissal arising from the Stage process can be overturned at an ET.

Think they can be appealed at stage 3 level prior to ET

You are right, you can appeal at stage 3 level.

Aren't you guys lucky that it aint 1 and 2 as well,how busy would you lot be.

Sorry but these stage warnings really grate me.

[royalwud]

Royal wud

Still waiting for the out come of the stage 1,

Still waiting for my back to work interview,

Still waiting for an Investigation in to my accident

WHAT A JOKE

[belle smith]

Royal wud

Still waiting for the out come of the stage 1,

Still waiting for my back to work interview,

Still waiting for an Investigation in to my accident

WHAT A JOKE

They are supposed to carry that out ASAP if they take any longer than 6 weeks ( i think) your entilteld to have it back dated.
oh and if you have any more time off due to illness in the mean time it only counts towards your stage 1 trigger ( again i think) not sure if thats the case if you have had your stage 1 interview, but certainly the case if you haven't.

Maybe DOM could help us out on that.