Our DO thinking of leaving CWU

[plmn00]

Some of the posties in our DO have been talking of leaving the CWU. More and more of them are asking whats the point of paying into a union that is so out of touch. I heard one old timer real of a list as long as your arm of all the things the union have given away over the the last 10 yrs. The general feeling is the the CWU is part of the problem and part of the reason we are now in such a mess.

[tailfly12]

Total agree the CWU are useless no help to anybody. They sold us down the river, now where in a real mess time for a change of union.

[NWpostie]

you will get picked off, if you go it alone, best way is to change the Union from inside, get your Reps to go for higher positions within the Union but at the same time remind him of his roots !

[heston]

so your first post after joining today ,is to tell us your unit is thinking of leaving the cwu,why did you bother posting? go ahead and leave , why you telling us?

[celerycelery]

so your first post after joining today ,is to tell us your unit is thinking of leaving the cwu,why did you bother posting? go ahead and leave , why you telling us?

Why did you bother posting that as well. What a pointless reply. Maybe you could have informed them of reasons why its best to stick with the union. I will admit that in our office now things are done at a more local level we are getting no help at all from our main rep who is 40 miles away. Doubt we've seen him more than once this year. doesnt hardly answer his phone and if he does he never gets back to you. Not exactly a good example to set to anyone imo.

[POSTMAN]

I heard one old timer real of a list as long as your arm of all the things the union have given away over the the last 10 yrs.

Ask the old timer,what would of been lost if the CWU wasn't in attendance?

[Night Tonic]

you will get picked off, if you go it alone, best way is to change the Union from inside, get your Reps to go for higher positions within the Union but at the same time remind him of his roots !

By the time that happens the CWU will only have about ten members :)

[TrueBlueTerrier]

By the time that happens the CWU will only have about ten members :)

Well that added a lot to the discussion.

[pickaname]

Some of the posties in our DO have been talking of leaving the CWU. More and more of them are asking whats the point of paying into a union that is so out of touch. I heard one old timer real of a list as long as your arm of all the things the union have given away over the the last 10 yrs. The general feeling is the the CWU is part of the problem and part of the reason we are now in such a mess.

The 2007 agreement should never have been recommended, let alone drafted so in a sense the CWU are part of the problem. The apparent need for a hasty resolution then has lead us to this point - perhaps the most precarious situation for RM employees ever.

But lets not forget that Royal Mail DO NOT care about your working conditions, your pay, you future, your family...THEY COULDNT CARE LESS.

Make no mistake, without the Union (the other people who work for this company) you are alone.

If you want a full time, permanent job and dont fancy a part time, ad-hoc job in the near future - stick with the Union.

[thehappyones]

Remember kiddies ,the union or any union for that matter are a double edged sword ,just for starters why dont you look at employees rights and then tell us the union are useless

[rockytony67]

you will get picked off, if you go it alone, best way is to change the Union from inside, get your Reps to go for higher positions within the Union but at the same time remind him of his roots !

By the time that happens the CWU will only have about ten members :)

Will you still be a member by then, or will you have retired

[prowler]

Some of the posties in our DO have been talking of leaving the CWU. More and more of them are asking whats the point of paying into a union that is so out of touch. I heard one old timer real of a list as long as your arm of all the things the union have given away over the the last 10 yrs. The general feeling is the the CWU is part of the problem and part of the reason we are now in such a mess.

What planet are you on? Do you really think things will improve if you leave the union?

[not me]

found out just the other day we are not much over 50% membership in our DO
and thats us just got our strike ballots through

[shadow]

I think if we stop giving to labour more people will join the union. I for one would not be without the union. I have been in a number of unions and I have never come across a better one. I know they aren't perfect but better than most. We have a new rep and I think he's good.

[brothermagrew]

20 reasons to stay in the CWU for all it's faults:

1. Union members get paid more (TUC figures show this can be by around 17%).
2. Health & Safety at union workplaces is better (there are 50% less accidents in
union workplaces).
3. Redundancies happen less in unionised workplaces; payoffs are negotiated
and usually higher than where there is no union.
4. CWU members are covered by 24 hour accident insurance.
5. CWU members can be accompanied by their union representatives to
grievance meetings.
6. CWU members can be accompanied by their union representatives to
disciplinary meetings.
7. CWU members have access to union training and a variety of courses at Union
learning centres (from computer courses to languages and vocational training).
8. CWU member’s next of kin receive funeral benefit should the worst happen.
9. CWU members win millions of pounds a year in compensation claims backed
by our legal team.
10. CWU members have access to advice, support and legal back up on work
related issues.
11. CWU members can access legal advice on non work related issues.
12. The CWU campaigns nationally amongst employers, politicians and industry
groups to improve working rights and legislation.
13. All CWU members have a voice in our democratic union and all can get
involved in their branch and stand for union elections.
14. The CWU has thousands of trained reps who ensure that employers keep to the
law at work and stick to agreements made with the company.
15. The CWU fights for the rights of all workers and is opposed to all forms of
discrimination in and out of work.
16. CWU members get discounts on a range of financial services including cheap
health insurance through the Communication Workers Friendly Society.
17. Many CWU branches offer a discounted Will making service for members.
18. CWU members are covered by our motor breakdown cover scheme.
19. The CWU backs equal treatment for part time and temporary workers.
20. Joining the CWU lets you join forces with hundreds of thousands of other
workers and be able to speak with a stronger voice for a better working life.

Question now being do ya all still want to come out