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Phase 3 absorption What if ......
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your_postie
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Phase 3 absorption What if ......
What if? – phase 3/absorption
If we agree to do the extra work but do our ‘jobs correctly’, what will be their next step when we either book even more overtime or cut off... performance issues again?
Is that their only weapon?
If we agree to do the extra work but do our ‘jobs correctly’, what will be their next step when we either book even more overtime or cut off... performance issues again?
Is that their only weapon?
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bandit650
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- Gender: Female
Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
Thats what they are trying to use in the office where i am,the managers are trying anything at the moment,i dont even reconise the guy as my own manager now,hes gone all power mad i've been working with him for 17 years he is allien to us as staff 
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your_postie
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Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
Are management having any success with this tactic?bandit650 wrote:Thats what they are trying to use in the office where i am,the managers are trying anything at the moment,i dont even reconise the guy as my own manager now,hes gone all power mad i've been working with him for 17 years he is allien to us as staff
I dare say they will all go that way (power mad), as the forces above shall simply say to the DOM's 'if you're not up to the job, we'll get someone in who is'
But is that it, perfomance issues?
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bandit650
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Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
I feel that they should be looking at thier own performance before they start with us,i had a simlar conversation with some mates the other day we were trying to think how many times we had seen a manager do anything to do with the job,we have so far seen them watch jonathan ross on i player,do the shopping with tesco on line oh and e-bay for what ever,the kettle goes on pretty regular,other than that they beat staff with the black stick. 
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celerycelery
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Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
How can we not accept absorption when firstly mail is down (been a postie for over 20 years and yes it is down alot) and secondly the idiots despite we dont have job and finish anymore still come in early, dont take breaks and rush round. They have no leg to stand on when moaning about taking a bit more of a walk. I even said weeks ago that despite the fact we only absorbed duties on a mon and tues that people were still coming back far to early later in the week and it would soon be an absorbed walk or 2 every day apart from saturday. And yes this has now happened this week. The only people we have to blame are ourselves and its too late now to do anything or complain.
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rowdogg
- Posts: 86
- Joined: 27 Sep 2008, 16:13
- Gender: Male
Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
i actually had a good chat with my dom i mean he is a tw*t but can be ok, and he said he was at some high level meeting where the area manager said to ALl the doms if u cant do what we ask i.e savings etc "Theres the f'ing door" now with attitudes like that what chance have we got???
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madelin4
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Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
bandit650 wrote:I feel that they should be looking at thier own performance before they start with us,i had a simlar conversation with some mates the other day we were trying to think how many times we had seen a manager do anything to do with the job,we have so far seen them watch jonathan ross on i player,do the shopping with tesco on line oh and e-bay for what ever,the kettle goes on pretty regular,other than that they beat staff with the black stick.
The whole performance thing is to try to conduct which = sackings!! They tried it with me!!!! Prats!!
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chidley
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Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
Is that not bullying?rowdogg wrote:i actually had a good chat with my dom i mean he is a tw*t but can be ok, and he said he was at some high level meeting where the area manager said to ALl the doms if u cant do what we ask i.e savings etc "Theres the f'ing door" now with attitudes like that what chance have we got???
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andy2007
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Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
Yes, but someone needs to report it happening to them. Some may be too frightened to do so.
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
it's just another outlook on Reality!
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mclovin
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Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
Im sure the 2-4K bonus greased the managers wheels to get the absorbtion done.
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bandit650
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Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
Thats the problem they started with making managers bonus's related to performance targets so to earn more they have to cut more,i heard one of our managers say the other day they had to cut out the hours because if they dont they are not going to get what they are due in thier pay,things are not to good for them because they have been caught out a few times with the quality people coming in and finding mail.They have also been told that if they dont do as they are asked then they will get rid of them.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
They've said that to my managers in London as well,it all over that place,that's why the puppets,are,err..........................puppets.chidley wrote:Is that not bullying?rowdogg wrote:i actually had a good chat with my dom i mean he is a tw*t but can be ok, and he said he was at some high level meeting where the area manager said to ALl the doms if u cant do what we ask i.e savings etc "Theres the f'ing door" now with attitudes like that what chance have we got???
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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cyclemech1
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
Well, we had the first day of our 'absorbtion' today.
Everyone, I'm glad to say, came in on time, didn't use cars, took breaks etc.
Quite a few cut off from their own walks and some (me included) couldn't do the absorbed work because we ran out of time.
Guess what, on returning to the office at 2.17pm, I, along with many others, was issued with a 'verbal warning'!!
When I asked why, I was told that it was because I hadn't taken out the absorbed work. I pointed out to the DIM that I had reached the end of my paid hours and I had not had sufficient spare time in my duty to take out the extra work.
I further mentioned that the agreement on absorbtion states 'where time allows', with that a sort of glazed expression came over his face
and he said that a further verbal warning would be forthcoming if I did it again and then 'more serious action' would be considered.
Surely this is bullying and harassment of the worst kind?
We will see what happens tomorrow.
Everyone, I'm glad to say, came in on time, didn't use cars, took breaks etc.
Quite a few cut off from their own walks and some (me included) couldn't do the absorbed work because we ran out of time.
Guess what, on returning to the office at 2.17pm, I, along with many others, was issued with a 'verbal warning'!!
When I asked why, I was told that it was because I hadn't taken out the absorbed work. I pointed out to the DIM that I had reached the end of my paid hours and I had not had sufficient spare time in my duty to take out the extra work.
I further mentioned that the agreement on absorbtion states 'where time allows', with that a sort of glazed expression came over his face
Surely this is bullying and harassment of the worst kind?
We will see what happens tomorrow.
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your_postie
- Posts: 86
- Joined: 25 Oct 2007, 16:24
Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
Stand strong, stand proud... and make sure you don't stand alone!cyclemech1 wrote:Well, we had the first day of our 'absorbtion' today.
Everyone, I'm glad to say, came in on time, didn't use cars, took breaks etc.
Quite a few cut off from their own walks and some (me included) couldn't do the absorbed work because we ran out of time.
Guess what, on returning to the office at 2.17pm, I, along with many others, was issued with a 'verbal warning'!!
When I asked why, I was told that it was because I hadn't taken out the absorbed work. I pointed out to the DIM that I had reached the end of my paid hours and I had not had sufficient spare time in my duty to take out the extra work.
I further mentioned that the agreement on absorbtion states 'where time allows', with that a sort of glazed expression came over his faceand he said that a further verbal warning would be forthcoming if I did it again and then 'more serious action' would be considered.
Surely this is bullying and harassment of the worst kind?
We will see what happens tomorrow.
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bandit650
- Posts: 880
- Joined: 14 Aug 2007, 15:42
- Gender: Female
Re: Phase 3 absorption What if ......
They made us take the absorption work out we had to do that first all we did was bring our own walk back if we ran out of time,since then they have implemented a new revision on the town staff but the rural and firms have not had a revision done on thier duty's,to be fair some walks are working but most are right on the edge but there are some walks where it is so clear they are just to big,those staff are getting a rough deal managers having a shot at them all the time,we have so many grievences in it's getting silly.