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brothermagrew
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ROYAL MAIL POSTIES CYCLING ON FOOTPATHS
Bicycles, are in law, carriages (as a consequence of the TAYLOR v GOODWIN judgement in 1879) and should be on the highway not footpaths. Cycling on footways (a pavement at the side of a carriageway) is prohibited by Section 72 of the Highways Act 1835, amended by Section 85(1) of the Local Government Act 1888. Punishable by a FPN (fixed penalty notice) of £30 under Section 51 and schedule 3 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.
The primary legislation which makes cycling on a footway an offence is Section 72 of the 1835 Highways Act, this provides that a person shall be guilty of an offence if he "shall wilfully ride upon any footpath or causeway by the side of any road made or set apart for the use or accomodation of foot-passengers or shal wilfully lead or drive any carriage of any description upon any such footpath or causeway."
Section 85 of the Local Government Act 1888 extended the definition of 'carriage' to include "bicycles, tricycles, velocipedes and other similar machines." The object of Section 72 Highways Act 1835 was intended not to protect all footpaths, but only footpaths or causeways by the side of a road, and that this is still the case has been ruled in the High Court. The legislation makes no exceptions for small wheeled or children's cycles, so even a child riding on a footway is breaking the law. However, if they are under the age of criminal responsibility they cannot, of course, face prosecution.
On 1st August 1999 new legislation came into force to allow a fixed penalty notice to be served on anyone who is guilty of cycling on a footway.
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Glenno
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Re: ROYAL MAIL POSTIES CYCLING ON FOOTPATHS
Dees this apply to Motability Scooters????????????????????
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Mobility Scooter Regulations - Where Can They be Used? http://www.scootamart.co.uk/help/mobili ... tions.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Glenno wrote:Dees this apply to Motability Scooters????????????????????
TYPES OF CLASS 2 SCOOTERS
Legally these scooters can travel up to 6.4kph (4mph) on pavements and are allowed on the road to cross from one side of the road to the other.
TYPES OF CLASS 3 VEHICLES
The main difference between Class 3 and Class 2 vehicles is that Class 3 vehicles tend to be larger and can be used on the roads where they can travel up to 12.8kph (8mph). It is usually possible to drive at 6.4 kph (4mph)and switch to 12.8kph (8mph).
Class 3 vehicle users do not require a driving license but should obey the highway code at all times. This includes complying with relevant eyesight requirements and not driving under the influence of alcohol, drugs etc.
Class 3 vehicles are not allowed on motorways, bicycle tracks or bus/cycle lanes.
Although legally allowed on dual carriageways, this is not recommended.
Speed
Two speed settings, usually changed by a switch.
12.8kph - maximum speed
Permitted only on the road. Not for use on the pavement or footpath.
6.4kph - 4mph maximum speed
Permitted on the pavement or footpath.
Lights/indicators/horn/rear view mirror/rear reflectors
The law requires class 3 vehicles to be fitted with all these features.
Flashing beacon
Optional - can be used when driving on the road to warn other road users of their presence, and must be used if driving on a dual carriageway although this is not recommended.
Insurance is not legally required for any powered vehicle in either category, Class 2 for pavement use or Class 3 for pavement and road use.
It is recommended that the purchaser have at least public liability Insurance, covering accidental damage to other people and property.
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Glenno
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Re: ROYAL MAIL POSTIES CYCLING ON FOOTPATHS
How can you tell the Difference between road user ones & pavement user ones???????????
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brothermagrew
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Glenno would suggest that para 2 line 3 says it all. If in doubt though have a word with your friendly local bobby who should be able to put you right.
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WTF is thatvelocipedes
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Re: ROYAL MAIL POSTIES CYCLING ON FOOTPATHS
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:WTF is thatvelocipedesis it some sort of Velociratpor crossed with a centipede
velocipede - any of several early bicycles with pedals on the front wheel
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DGP1
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I prefer my idea of a 100 legged velociraptor 
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Glenno
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Re: ROYAL MAIL POSTIES CYCLING ON FOOTPATHS
only reason for asking is keep bumping into the bloody things when im riding on the pavement
never know whos got the right of way 
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brothermagrew
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may provide some useful answers!Glenno wrote:Dees this apply to Motability Scooters????????????????????
http://www.thomson-caravans.co.uk/advic ... cooter.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And top marks to brother Teebs
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As very few pedestrians use footpaths now unless using them as dog toilets, this needs to be reviewed. I see local people driving the few hundred yards to the newsagent rather than walk every day, and most local pavements are devoid of people except at school opening and closing times..brothermagrew wrote:Glenno would suggest that para 2 line 3 says it all. If in doubt though have a word with your friendly local bobby who should be able to put you right.
Our local police take a very sensible view which they made clear to us recently - a police officer called in by our manager to give us a short talk on cycle safety at a WTLL session, explained their attitude to us as working cyclists. They WOULD stop and fine us if we were riding in the designated pedestrian precinct (which does have prohibitive signs and has been plagued by kids riding into people) which saved many of us a couple of minutes on the way to our walks.
However, they appreciated the nature of our job and would turn a blind eye to us riding on suburban pavements where we were delivering to the adjoining addresses as long as we were seen to exercise due care where pedestrians were about. This is a wholly sensible solution which we appreciated and to date no one has had or has caused any problems.
Community police talk to us on a daily basis and never question our use of the paved areas to go from point to point on delivery and it helps us to avoid all the careless drivers chatting on their mobiles whilst moving (now there is something that really needs addressing)
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dvbuk55
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Hey TBT - get old disgruntled pretending he doesn't know what a penny farthing is - huh he used to have one on his delivery.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:disgruntledpostie1 wrote:WTF is thatvelocipedesis it some sort of Velociratpor crossed with a centipede
velocipede - any of several early bicycles with pedals on the front wheel
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DGP1
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What's that you say young manby dvbuk55
Hey TBT - get old disgruntled pretending he doesn't know what a penny farthing is - huh he used to have one on his delivery.
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dvbuk55
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You know what is said about deafness - well if you keep at it you'll start getting short of breath and things will look blurred. Not that I'm speaking from experience you understanddisgruntledpostie1 wrote:What's that you say young manby dvbuk55
Hey TBT - get old disgruntled pretending he doesn't know what a penny farthing is - huh he used to have one on his delivery.
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DGP1
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You forgot the hairy handsdvbuk55 wrote:You know what is said about deafness - well if you keep at it you'll start getting short of breath and things will look blurred. Not that I'm speaking from experience you understanddisgruntledpostie1 wrote:What's that you say young manby dvbuk55
Hey TBT - get old disgruntled pretending he doesn't know what a penny farthing is - huh he used to have one on his delivery.
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