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dogs on the loose?

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morleyposty
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dogs on the loose?

Post by morleyposty »

was on a walk today and one of the cul-de-sac i was posting too had a cpl of alstation like dogs on the loose the owner was with them.
i did a few doors and then was getting nearer to oblivian(if you know what i mean).

in the end the owner took them back inside after i waited a while. and then i completed to remaining houses.
if i feel threatened can i just walk away even though 3/4 of the cul-de-sac remained to be done?
razor
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Post by razor »

If your worried you could be attacked then take the mail back. Our DOM supports us 100% on anything like this and yours should too.

If they have a problem let them take the mail out and see of they bite :coolr
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Re: dogs on the loose?

Post by moggymoz »

mosaddler wrote:was on a walk today and one of the cul-de-sac i was posting too had a cpl of alstation like dogs on the loose the owner was with them.
i did a few doors and then was getting nearer to oblivian(if you know what i mean).

if i feel threatened can i just walk away even though 3/4 of the cul-de-sac remained to be done?
Yes, just write dog loose on the letters "as well as the date" and put them in a postbox. also mention it to your lino the next day, job done :nana
da'bunny
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Post by da'bunny »

On a walk i used to do there was a dog that was sometimes loose it "guarded" the whole close. I never went near it - I dont trust any loose dogs. Much safer to just take the mail back, you've got the right to. :wink:
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Post by uprising95 »

i was in a cul de sac the other day

theres people had there door wide open
leaving the alsation to launch down the stairs and go for me

it nipped me just to the left of the old man.
was furious as the owners just laughed in a way
also they asked what time we came so they should keep the door shut.
i mean what a joke.

dogs like that want hanging or chaining up full stop
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Re: dogs on the loose?

Post by moggymoz »

uprising95 wrote:i was in a cul de sac the other day

theres people had there door wide open
leaving the alsation to launch down the stairs and go for me

it nipped me just to the left of the old man.
was furious as the owners just laughed in a way
also they asked what time we came so they should keep the door shut.
i mean what a joke.

dogs like that want hanging or chaining up full stop
:no no Its not the dog that wants hanging its the owners :mad also refuse to deliver there and get the line manager to make it a call and collect.
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Post by brothermagrew »

mosaddler wrote:was on a walk today and one of the cul-de-sac i was posting too had a cpl of alstation like dogs on the loose the owner was with them.
i did a few doors and then was getting nearer to oblivian(if you know what i mean).

in the end the owner took them back inside after i waited a while. and then i completed to remaining houses.
if i feel threatened can i just walk away even though 3/4 of the cul-de-sac remained to be done?


ROYAL MAIL POLICY ON DEALING WITH DOG ATTACKS

3. POLICY PURPOSE AND OBJECTIVES

Sub para 3.4 Delivery staff and other staff working outdoors understand that they are under no obligation to collect or deliver mail to an address where they feel threatened by a dog at large and that every attack or incident of menacing must be reported to management.

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For use by Line Managers to assist in staff briefing (supported by Safe Systems of Work as a handout).


ROYAL MAIL POLICY
Our policy is quite clear with regard to ferocious animals.

No member of staff is expected to deliver to premises where there is good reason to suppose there is a risk of attack and injury from an animal, whether it be a dog, gat, cat or goose.


To know your rights ask your DOM / Line Manager that you wish to view the Royal Mail Dealing with Dog Attacks - Good Practice Guide.
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morleyposty
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Post by morleyposty »

thanks guys
Pat Ostman
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Post by Pat Ostman »

Any responsible dog owner will not leave a dog loose unattended when they can reasonably expect daily visitors to that property.

I have seen dogs sat on doorsteps = no mail for that property + endorsed
I have seen dogs loose in a close = no mail for whole of close + endorsed

I will also not open a closed gate and deliver mail to a property with dogs running loose. Yes, dog owners have a right to exercise their own dogs in their own fenced off garden area but RESPONSIBLE dog owners will also leave a mailbox on the otherside of the gate which the postie can access or supervise their animals. And most people generally do.

What REALLY pisses me off though is the owners who grant their dogs access to the letterbox area INSIDE their house. This is the really dangerous time as often there is no warning of their impending attack on your fingers when you deliver the mail, until the last second. The vast majority of people in this category are not even at home. I would imagine most animal attacks are caused because of this, although I am not privy to the numbers unfortunately.

Do not take a risk with any dog loose is the simple guideline issued by both RM and the CWU Bring it back for delivery the next day and notify the Lino.
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Post by baldrick »

brothermagrew wrote: ROYAL MAIL POLICY
Our policy is quite clear with regard to ferocious animals.

No member of staff is expected to deliver to premises where there is good reason to suppose there is a risk of attack and injury from an animal, whether it be a dog, gat, cat or goose.
What's a gat? Is it meant to be gnat, rat, or bat?
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Post by Darren Bent »

I don't want dogs owners to have metal protection cage behing the letter box. What I want them is to put up an external letterbox outside their house/flat. :no no
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Post by Stormproof »

baldrick wrote:
brothermagrew wrote: ROYAL MAIL POLICY
Our policy is quite clear with regard to ferocious animals.

No member of staff is expected to deliver to premises where there is good reason to suppose there is a risk of attack and injury from an animal, whether it be a dog, gat, cat or goose.
What's a gat? Is it meant to be gnat, rat, or bat?
Might be a goat or a gator Image :nervous
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Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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tiredwalker
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Post by tiredwalker »

I've just started a new duty this week and I have one cul de sac which I have only delivered to one due to a dog that's always running loose. Its always better to play the situation safe.
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Re: dogs on the loose?

Post by brothermagrew »

baldrick wrote:
brothermagrew wrote: ROYAL MAIL POLICY
Our policy is quite clear with regard to ferocious animals.

No member of staff is expected to deliver to premises where there is good reason to suppose there is a risk of attack and injury from an animal, whether it be a dog, gat, cat or goose.
What's a gat? Is it meant to be gnat, rat, or bat?
Sharp eyed as ever baldrick it's a typo error and meant to be goat :wave
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