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hospital appiontment
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ldsposti
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hospital appiontment
hi can anyone help me out a member has a hospital appiontment he is coming in to do part of his duty and another guy is doing the rest for him, problem is our manager said it will go down on his record as a sick absence but will not be used against him should he in the future trigger a stage, can they do this what about the magic word being flexible ?
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dvbuk55
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Re: hospital appiontment
It should be shown as special paid leave for medical appointment, it will be in his record as all absences are for whatever reason but should be discounted for any disciplinary/RTU reasons.
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Broxi51
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Re: hospital appiontment
Is the other guy getting OT for doing part of the round or is he doing it for nothing to help out? If it is OT then I would imagine it went on the sick record but if it is to help out and not OT then it shouldn't.
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dvbuk55
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Re: hospital appiontment
That is in fact immaterial, how the DOM choses to cover the element not done by the chap who has the appointment is his problem - he can either pay soomeone overtime or nominate a replacement on ordinary time - it doesn't affect the special leave element.Broxi51 wrote:Is the other guy getting OT for doing part of the round or is he doing it for nothing to help out? If it is OT then I would imagine it went on the sick record but if it is to help out and not OT then it shouldn't.
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wolfie citizen smith
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Re: hospital appiontment
Tell this manager that your member will be willing to make there hours up on there rest day, there is your flexiblity.ldsposti wrote:hi can anyone help me out a member has a hospital appiontment he is coming in to do part of his duty and another guy is doing the rest for him, problem is our manager said it will go down on his record as a sick absence but will not be used against him should he in the future trigger a stage, can they do this what about the magic word being flexible ?
Any business don't have to pay staff for hospital appointments unless an accident on duty had occured or extreme family traggic circumstances has unfortunally happened, this would then constitute as working hours due to the Non Blameworthy accident which you will have to argue the toss about but you will be right or the family friendly procedure royal mail has adopted because they don't want themselves looking like complete arshoes.
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saintsnut
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Re: hospital appiontment
I have the same problem. My hospital appointments i have been told will be unpaid special leave in the future even though it's to do with my ears which are covered by DDA???? I have to have check ups for the rest of my life!!!!!dvbuk55 wrote:It should be shown as special paid leave for medical appointment, it will be in his record as all absences are for whatever reason but should be discounted for any disciplinary/RTU reasons.
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dvbuk55
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Re: hospital appiontment
Special leave isn't counted against entitlement and may be paid or unpaid, BUT , a reasonable Manager should not detract from anything that enhances the well being of a member of his staff and should authorise paid absence.saintsnut wrote:I have the same problem. My hospital appointments i have been told will be unpaid special leave in the future even though it's to do with my ears which are covered by DDA???? I have to have check ups for the rest of my life!!!!!dvbuk55 wrote:It should be shown as special paid leave for medical appointment, it will be in his record as all absences are for whatever reason but should be discounted for any disciplinary/RTU reasons.But the best bit is how can you apply for special leave when its not the whole day????? Over to you !!!!!
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DGP1
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Re: hospital appiontment
dvbuk55 wrote:Special leave isn't counted against entitlement and may be paid or unpaid, BUT , a reasonable Manager should not detract from anything that enhances the well being of a member of his staff and should authorise paid absence.saintsnut wrote:I have the same problem. My hospital appointments i have been told will be unpaid special leave in the future even though it's to do with my ears which are covered by DDA???? I have to have check ups for the rest of my life!!!!!dvbuk55 wrote:It should be shown as special paid leave for medical appointment, it will be in his record as all absences are for whatever reason but should be discounted for any disciplinary/RTU reasons.But the best bit is how can you apply for special leave when its not the whole day????? Over to you !!!!!
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Re: hospital appiontment
Yes but apparently RM have a licence to cull them for scientific research. But actually they just end up on the tables at Japanese restaurants.disgruntledpostie1 wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:saintsnut wrote:
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Re: hospital appiontment
It would take a harpoon to take most of them downTrueBlueTerrier wrote:Yes but apparently RM have a licence to cull them for scientific research. But actually they just end up on the tables at Japanese restaurants.disgruntledpostie1 wrote:dvbuk55 wrote:saintsnut wrote:
Special leave isn't counted against entitlement and may be paid or unpaid, BUT , a reasonable Manager should not detract from anything that enhances the well being of a member of his staff and should authorise paid absence.![]()
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