Asking Allan

smok3y666 · Post by **smok3y666** » 27 Apr 2009, 19:23

I asked Allan something and got a reply from someone at the Managing Directors office. The questions were about the actions of my managers at my PF depot regarding forced overtime and a few other things. In the reply they have asked for my name and the depot I work at. What are the consequences of giving this info to them? I say consequences as I presume an "investigation" will be done and I will be a marked man

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 27 Apr 2009, 19:31

smok3y666 wrote:I asked Allan something and got a reply from someone at the Managing Directors office. The questions were about the actions of my managers at my PF depot regarding forced overtime and a few other things. In the reply they have asked for my name and the depot I work at. What are the consequences of giving this info to them? I say consequences as I presume an "investigation" will be done and I will be a marked man

They asked me everytime I asked a question but all I gave them was 'I fear that if I give you my details then I'll be subject to bullying and harassment by managers as they try to brush their misdeeds under the carpet' which usually gets the reply of 'I assure you that your details will be kept confidential'

You could always give you managers name (or AN Onymous if you feel that giving your DOMs name may land you in serious trouble).

tiredwalker · Post by **tiredwalker** » 27 Apr 2009, 19:35

I must admit I have never been asked for my name etc.. but then again maybe thats why I've only had one response.

Post by **Carnoustie** » 27 Apr 2009, 20:37

If you felt strongly enough about something to have sent the first email, I think you shouldn't back out now. Although I do understand your worry about being named as the whistle-blower. Isn't there some protection enshrined in law that covers people from unfair treatment after they expose wrong-doing in the public sector ? I seem to remember something about it on the news last year

randompostman · Post by **randompostman** » 27 Apr 2009, 20:51

Carnoustie wrote:If you felt strongly enough about something to have sent the first email, I think you shouldn't back out now. Although I do understand your worry about being named as the whistle-blower. Isn't there some protection enshrined in law that covers people from unfair treatment after they expose wrong-doing in the public sector ? I seem to remember something about it on the news last year

I take it you are not looking at panarama at the momment?

Pat Ostman · Post by **Pat Ostman** » 27 Apr 2009, 23:33

Well I just asked Allan the same question it seems. Forced overtime.

norbert · Post by **norbert** » 27 Apr 2009, 23:37

Carnoustie wrote:If you felt strongly enough about something to have sent the first email, I think you shouldn't back out now. Although I do understand your worry about being named as the whistle-blower. Isn't there some protection enshrined in law that covers people from unfair treatment after they expose wrong-doing in the public sector ? I seem to remember something about it on the news last year

Public Information Disclosure Act 2004 - you can take RM to tribunal for it .

smokerjim · Post by **smokerjim** » 28 Apr 2009, 01:39

norbert wrote:
Carnoustie wrote:If you felt strongly enough about something to have sent the first email, I think you shouldn't back out now. Although I do understand your worry about being named as the whistle-blower. Isn't there some protection enshrined in law that covers people from unfair treatment after they expose wrong-doing in the public sector ? I seem to remember something about it on the news last year
Public Information Disclosure Act 2004 - you can take RM to tribunal for it .

But for management whose generic management style is stuck in the 70's, do you think any Acts from as recently as 2004 will even appear on their radar?

vinnieb5 · Post by **vinnieb5** » 28 Apr 2009, 15:23

i asked alan once about treatment from the dom. i only mentioned my delivery office in e mail never got a reply but was hauled in office a few days later and asked to retract what i said . i refused and still in my office but dom left shortly after to carry on his bullying and harassment in another office !! :cfo :lfo :mfo

norbert · Post by **norbert** » 28 Apr 2009, 16:29

smokerjim wrote:
norbert wrote:
Carnoustie wrote:If you felt strongly enough about something to have sent the first email, I think you shouldn't back out now. Although I do understand your worry about being named as the whistle-blower. Isn't there some protection enshrined in law that covers people from unfair treatment after they expose wrong-doing in the public sector ? I seem to remember something about it on the news last year
Public Information Disclosure Act 2004 - you can take RM to tribunal for it .
But for management whose generic management style is stuck in the 70's, do you think any Acts from as recently as 2004 will even appear on their radar?

only with their solicitors once they've backed themselves into another corner

belle smith · Post by **belle smith** » 28 Apr 2009, 16:33

"Please could you tell us the name of your depot were overtime is forced, you'll have to narrow it down for us as this is standard practice through out the buisness"

Pat Ostman · Post by **Pat Ostman** » 28 Apr 2009, 16:57

Well its ask adam now anyway isnt it?

brothermagrew · Post by **brothermagrew** » 28 Apr 2009, 19:42

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
smok3y666 wrote:I asked Allan something and got a reply from someone at the Managing Directors office. The questions were about the actions of my managers at my PF depot regarding forced overtime and a few other things. In the reply they have asked for my name and the depot I work at. What are the consequences of giving this info to them? I say consequences as I presume an "investigation" will be done and I will be a marked man
They asked me everytime I asked a question but all I gave them was 'I fear that if I give you my details then I'll be subject to bullying and harassment by managers as they try to brush their misdeeds under the carpet' which usually gets the reply of 'I assure you that your details will be kept confidential' You could always give you managers name (or AN Onymous if you feel that giving your DOMs name may land you in serious trouble).

On the subject of harassment think the CWU brothers and sisters should take a butchers at this Tribunal judgement http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cg ... 00206.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pat Ostman · Post by **Pat Ostman** » 28 Apr 2009, 20:43

brothermagrew wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
smok3y666 wrote:I asked Allan something and got a reply from someone at the Managing Directors office. The questions were about the actions of my managers at my PF depot regarding forced overtime and a few other things. In the reply they have asked for my name and the depot I work at. What are the consequences of giving this info to them? I say consequences as I presume an "investigation" will be done and I will be a marked man
They asked me everytime I asked a question but all I gave them was 'I fear that if I give you my details then I'll be subject to bullying and harassment by managers as they try to brush their misdeeds under the carpet' which usually gets the reply of 'I assure you that your details will be kept confidential' You could always give you managers name (or AN Onymous if you feel that giving your DOMs name may land you in serious trouble).

On the subject of harassment think the CWU brothers and sisters should take a butchers at this Tribunal judgement http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cg ... 00206.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

typical...

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