Not being paid for election leaflets?

[Puppetmaster]

I beleive the Euro elections are close,not sure about Council Ones ,am I right in think after our last fantastic pay deal,we get no extra payment for all this extra mail ?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

You are incorrect:

Our Ref : RG/535.09/09/hn

Date: 23rd April 2009

Branch Secretaries
Divisional Representatives
Area Delivery Representatives
Regional Secretaries


Dear Colleagues,

DELIVERY OF ELECTION MATERIAL

Please find attached the existing National Agreement covering the delivery of Election Material. This agreement still holds the field regardless of any statements or disingenuous information being supplied by Royal Mail.

The issue of poll cards has been raised with the Outdoor Department which in turn has been raised with Royal Mail, clearly stating that this is the only agreement that covers the delivery of Election Material, including poll cards. The only poll cards that are not paid for are those where they are individually addressed for the purpose of proxy voting which is specifically contained in the National Agreement.

Branches and Representatives should also note that at no time has Royal Mail even approached the CWU to alter the terms of the National Agreement and that Mark Higson, Managing Director, has also stated that Royal Mail will honour all existing National Agreements, which has also been confirmed by Dale Haddon, Human Resources Director.

Any reference by Managers to DSA and their position that this supersedes the National Agreement is completely untrue.

Any instances where Royal Mail attempt to undermine, disregard or ignore the National Agreement should be reported to the Outdoor Department as soon as possible.

Yours sincerely

Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary



National Agreement covering the Delivery of Election Material

1) Introduction

This agreement between Royal Mail and the CWU is in line with the commitment made in the Pay and Major Change Agreement dated 19 December 2003. It introduces a new national standard payment and procedure for the delivery of election material as required by that agreement (see Appendix B section 4 sub Para d).

2) Scope of this Agreement

This agreement covers all addressed and un-addressed free election communications marked “ELECTION COMMUNICATION” and Poll Cards (excluding Proxy Poll Cards). It replaces all previous national and / or local agreements covering the delivery of election materials and poll cards from the date of this agreement.

3) Delivery Specification

Addressed items: delivery to take place within 3 working days from receipt (including Saturdays). (Except certain elections relating to Europe where it may be extended to 7 days from receipt.)

Un-addressed items: delivery to take place within 7 working days from receipt (including Saturdays).

The impact of delivering this letter traffic will be excluded from normal workload calculations.

All other operational issues will be dealt with at local level in line with the IR Framework.

4) Payments

All existing local payments covering the delivery of election material as stated in paragraph 2 above will remain in place, and in accordance with this agreement, with the following exceptions.
1. The minimum payment for delivering election material will be 3p per item.
2. The maximum payment for delivering election material will be 6.6p per item.
3. All hours based schemes will be converted to pence per item schemes and then the criteria in 1 and 2 above will be applied. Where delivery offices have introduced a SDD revision since the last delivery of election material then the following formula will be applied prior to the criteria in 1 and 2 above being applied.

Previous no. Walks X O/T hours per walk e.g. 35 X 2 hrs hours = 3.5hrs
Current no. of Walks 20

4. In those Units where there are two payments e.g. 4.5p for the first three parties and 1.67p for additional parties the minimum payment will become 3p with any payments over this amount being retained.
5. In those Units where there is a mixture of hours and pence per item based payments the process in 4) 3. above will be followed for the hours based element, with the process in 4) 4. above then being applied.

Where election material items exceed 20g in weight a further 0.5p will be payable.

These revised payments apply from the date of this agreement and cover all election material as identified above. They are payable on an individual basis, and are not affected by any collective criteria/responsibility.

5) Quality Commitment

The payments are based on the requirement that all election material will be delivered in accordance with the delivery specification set out in paragraph 3. Where the specification is not achieved for any party/candidate then the payment for that party/candidates material will not be due.

6) Special Circumstances

It is jointly recognised that Royal Mail has a legal obligation to secure the delivery of election material for all nominated candidates and parties.

Whilst it is expected that delivery will be made by the individual due to undertake the particular delivery, local management will deal sensitively and sympathetically with genuine requests to deviate from this arrangement.

Such cases may arise as a result of personal circumstances or beliefs or where an individual believes that delivery of a particular item may incur personal risk.

If such instances arise alternative measures will be used to secure delivery. These may include the use of volunteers from within the office or neighbouring offices to cover more than one delivery or, as a last resort, the use of supplementary resource.

Both parties undertake to co-operate fully in the application of these principles and in resolving any difficulties that may arise surrounding the delivery of election material.

[jockstrapp]

I beleive the Euro elections are close,not sure about Council Ones ,am I right in think after our last fantastic pay deal,we get no extra payment for all this extra mail ?

A few in my office are still waiting for payment for the last election crap so we won't be delivering the next lot until they have paid us.

p.s. would be delivering crap to vote for crap.

[Broxi51]

Can anyone enlighten me regarding election material. I heard that before the last election that it was purely voluntary to deliver election material. We had heard that an office in the North of England had refused and that posties from a neighbouring DO went out and delivered. If that is the case then surely now would be a time for all offices to say "F*CK OFF we aint doin it". That would really cause a stir both in RM and in the Government.

[Big Daz]

6) Special Circumstances

It is jointly recognised that Royal Mail has a legal obligation to secure the delivery of election material for all nominated candidates and parties.

Whilst it is expected that delivery will be made by the individual due to undertake the particular delivery, local management will deal sensitively and sympathetically with genuine requests to deviate from this arrangement.

Such cases may arise as a result of personal circumstances or beliefs or where an individual believes that delivery of a particular item may incur personal risk.

If such instances arise alternative measures will be used to secure delivery. These may include the use of volunteers from within the office or neighbouring offices to cover more than one delivery or, as a last resort, the use of supplementary resource.

Both parties undertake to co-operate fully in the application of these principles and in resolving any difficulties that may arise surrounding the delivery of election material

[Broxi51]

6) Special Circumstances

It is jointly recognised that Royal Mail has a legal obligation to secure the delivery of election material for all nominated candidates and parties.

Whilst it is expected that delivery will be made by the individual due to undertake the particular delivery, local management will deal sensitively and sympathetically with genuine requests to deviate from this arrangement.

Such cases may arise as a result of personal circumstances or beliefs or where an individual believes that delivery of a particular item may incur personal risk.

If such instances arise alternative measures will be used to secure delivery. These may include the use of volunteers from within the office or neighbouring offices to cover more than one delivery or, as a last resort, the use of supplementary resource.

Both parties undertake to co-operate fully in the application of these principles and in resolving any difficulties that may arise surrounding the delivery of election material

Does that mean I can refuse to deliver Labour election material since they want to part privatise RM and I would be sick if the a*seholes managed it.

[Big Daz]

Can anyone enlighten me regarding election material. I heard that before the last election that it was purely voluntary to deliver election material. We had heard that an office in the North of England had refused and that posties from a neighbouring DO went out and delivered. If that is the case then surely now would be a time for all offices to say "F*CK OFF we aint doin it". That would really cause a stir both in RM and in the Government.

That sounds similar to what the printers did in 1926.

The Daily Mail wrote a editoral supporting the government, printer saw it as propaganda and refused to print it. This was seen as blocking the freedom of the press.

[shimmyrule]

i earn a fortune at this time, single handedly delivering the BNP literature individually through peoples doors from those work colleagues stupid enough not to deliver them..
I know it gets more of a look than the other 12 candidates, who are all lumped together then go straight in the bin.
Its a win win scenario for me and my party, as i donate a large chunk of what i earn at this time to the party, so, thank you.

[stokes11eg]

Just hope our office at least gets it right this time round. It was a complete fiasco at the last
European Elections. We were told the maximun number was about 12.we ended up with 23,all coming in piecemeal---
it was impossible to make order of the way they were delivered, and most of us never got paid for what we did!!!
And I hope this doesn't follow the course of our last elections, with more and more candidated choosing to have all the bumph
personally addressed--it adds cosiderably to the bulk and weight.

[Big Daz]

i earn a fortune at this time, single handedly delivering the BNP literature individually through peoples doors from those work colleagues stupid enough not to deliver them..
I know it gets more of a look than the other 12 candidates, who are all lumped together then go straight in the bin.
Its a win win scenario for me and my party, as i donate a large chunk of what i earn at this time to the party, so, thank you.

And I shall be donating my money from BNP leaflets straight to the Green Party to help their election campaign, so many thanks ShimmyRule

[Broxi51]

i earn a fortune at this time, single handedly delivering the BNP literature individually through peoples doors from those work colleagues stupid enough not to deliver them..
I know it gets more of a look than the other 12 candidates, who are all lumped together then go straight in the bin.
Its a win win scenario for me and my party, as i donate a large chunk of what i earn at this time to the party, so, thank you.

It doesnt bother me delivering BNP. They have the right as any other party in this greed & plastic land of ours. I think if someone has any problem delivering items because of their politics then that should include the slime bags at Labour. If the labour mep in my constituency has voted for edm 428 then I will deliver, if not then why should I help him hang us?

[Big Daz]

MEP'S can not sign EDM's only MP's

MP's and not MEP's will be voting on the postal services bill!

MEP's can support or oppose the government as much as they like but they dont get to vote so what use are they to us. Are they going to try and overturn Euroean postal directives, if not dont fund a single bloddy one of them!

MEP'S in Labour can tell us till the cows come that they support the sentiments of EDM 428 and are against a sell off, but as they do not vote in the UK parliment how do we know if they are telling us the truth.
CWU is going to have to make sure Labour MEP's can show firm committment to our cause, a load of fluffy words is not good enough.

This is to advise Branches that the CWU National Executive Council met on 25th March and decided that the CWU will write to all Labour MEP candidates asking them to confirm opposition to part privatisation of Royal Mail. Any MEP candidate not supporting this policy will receive no financial support from the CWU leading up to and during the European Elections.

[shimmyrule]

i earn a fortune at this time, single handedly delivering the BNP literature individually through peoples doors from those work colleagues stupid enough not to deliver them..
I know it gets more of a look than the other 12 candidates, who are all lumped together then go straight in the bin.
Its a win win scenario for me and my party, as i donate a large chunk of what i earn at this time to the party, so, thank you.

And I shall be donating my money from BNP leaflets straight to the Green Party to help their election campaign, so many thanks ShimmyRule

bloody good for you daz, at least someone is putting their money where their mouth is, and taking part in the political process.

Vote green

[Pmn]

I think if someone has any problem delivering items because of their politics then that should include the slime bags at Labour.

Anyone can join the Labour Party. The BNP measure your nose first. That makes their politics very different from just about every other party. So f**k 'em. If they try and force me to take out BNP material then it'll be going on a bonfire in the garden!

[dunposting]

4) Payments

All existing local payments covering the delivery of election material as stated in paragraph 2 above will remain in place, and in accordance with this agreement, with the following exceptions.
1. The minimum payment for delivering election material will be 3p per item.
2. The maximum payment for delivering election material will be 6.6p per item.

We have our own aggreement in our office based on hours not price per item. Is this agreement still ours to use or does this national thing outdate ours?