Peter Mandelson's postman says save R M by sacking bosses

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Peter Mandelson's postman says save Royal Mail by sacking bosses

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Peter Mandelson's postman yesterday revealed he knows how to rescue Royal Mail and save millions of pounds - by sacking the bosses.

Christian Smith, 60, said getting rid of "pointless managers" would be a much better idea than Mandy's plan to part-nationalise Royal Mail.

Christian, speaking as he delivered to the Business Secretary's North London home, said there were five managers overseeing 56 staff at the sorting office where he works.

He added: "We used to cope with just one manager.

"Everyone who works there knows what they are doing and where they need to be. They don't need five people telling them.

"These managers are on £40,000 to £50,000 a year and all they do is turn up and go straight into their offices to watch TV and play on Facebook.

"Meanwhile the guys who deliver to your front door every day and actually do the work are being told the pension pot is empty.

"There's a very simple way to save us money - get rid of all the pointless managers."

Christian, a grandfather who has worked for Royal Mail for 20 years, added: "Once it's part privatised there'll be cuts and sadly it will be the managers who get to decide where those cuts are made. And it won't be themselves. Once the sale goes ahead I'm going to put in for early retirement. I think everyone who can will go - there'll be an exodus."

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Sadly, Christian has not been able to advise Lord Mandelson personally.

He said: "I've never actually met Mandy. By the time I get to his house he's left for work.

"But I often wish I did meet him so I could tell him exactly what I think. I'm sure he doesn't think too much about frontline workers like us."

Mandy wants to sell off at least 30 per cent of the Royal Mail - in return the Government would take on liability for its pension fund - estimated to be £8billion in debt.

But Christian believes the Royal Mail is far from secure in Labour's hands.

He added: "It's like the Tories and BT all over again, perhaps even worse.

"What makes it so stupid is we don't need to do this."

We used to cope with one manager. Now we have five on £40,000 to £50,000 a year

[POSTMAN]

Interesting time for Christian when he goes into work tomm.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I wonder if he will be prep, walk and sort tested fairly soon.

If he does it will be wrong, plain wrong.

[Yahoorsur]

Well said that man.
great to have a national platform to say what we all think.
nae doot he will be pulled in to the managers office to explain the facebook comment.

[DGP1]

He hasn't told any lies, all he has said is what most of us have already said on this board that as postie numbers decrease, the manager numbers increase I've said it before, whenever I started there was 1 manager for 50 odd staff but now we have 3 for 40 odd staff (not to mention the DSM who seems to be down in the office every week trying to sort out problems).

It just seems to be a system run by managers for the sole benefit of managers.

[IWW Fellow Worker]

He's right though. We used to have two managers for 120 staff, we now have three for 89 staff.

[axeman]

Thats what hapens when you have empire builders they think the more they have below them then the safer they are ....and of course the moore stooges they have means they can bully and harras you because they ship them around every now and then to try to evade the grievences from posties

[pocky20]

there was loads of talk about that in my place as bosses are the ones making the most money and to be fair some do there bit and are ok . i think some of them think that if tnt get in they wiil go for sure as tnt will just cut them out and save money found this out in wtl a few weeks ago

[norbert]

Well said that man.
great to have a national platform to say what we all think.
nae doot he will be pulled in to the managers office to explain the facebook comment.

superb - he'll be in the Office when they've all finished mouthing the words in The Mirror - don't get me wrong I agree - seen people sacked for that in one nationalized Industry - sometimes they're p***ed off because they aren't in the paper

[mailsort6]

What this postman has said is the truth and I don't think, he will be called into the office, because a few weeks ago on the news, I heard a few MPs commenting about the managers lack of corporate experience and I think this is also mentioned in the Hooper Report. This postman is only repeating what everyone else has said or is saying. RM and the CWU really need to start working together and start listening to each others ideas and taking on board good ideas whether it is from RM or the CWU.

[axeman]

royalfail does not listen it dictates.................thats why they put inept managers in charge knowing full well they will do as there masters say with the fear of loosing there job if they don't obey every instruction

[norbert]

royalfail does not listen it dictates.................thats why they put inept managers in charge knowing full well they will do as there masters say with the fear of loosing there job if they don't obey every instruction

true - they call it pressure , :lfo & :cfo have taken RM backwards to the pre 1986 PO days with "the Manual" - the PO manual was a bookcase of rule books , 70's command and control , now it's a sinister twist on that with Old St Dictats and Decrees , quite Stalinist but if you're that way out , you meet the other side round the back

[treadhead]

The big difference with Managers now though Gents is when I started they were all ex telegram boys who had come up through the ranks and knew what they were doing, nothing like what we have now with only a few years experience between em.

[pinstripe]

The big difference with Managers now though Gents is when I started they were all ex telegram boys who had come up through the ranks and knew what they were doing, nothing like what we have now with only a few years experience between em.

Probably why they are always on 'training' courses or attending meetings.
"And next week we'll learn how to tie our shoe laces, now drink your milk and you can go."

[TrueBlueTerrier]

The big difference with Managers now though Gents is when I started they were all ex telegram boys who had come up through the ranks and knew what they were doing, nothing like what we have now with only a few years experience between em.

Probably why they are always on 'training' courses or attending meetings.
"And next week we'll learn how to tie our shoe laces, now drink your milk and you can go."

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Course Structure:

Beverages:

1. Coffee Making - Machine Dispensed.
2. Coffee Making - Self dispensed
3. Coffee Making - Staff dispensed.

Cage Utilisation:

1. Yorky - Brake application prior to leaning against
2. Yorky - Leaning positions
3. Yorky - Leaning Positions (advanced) - incorporating beverage consumption.
4. Yorky - Implications on savings and profit if H&S rules are applied.