A few of the lads in my DO have bought extra A\L but have been pulled into the office by dom to be told that the leave has not been deducted from their wages, a ballsup by a previous dom.
now the current dom has no record of how much is owed and the staff can't be certain and TBH you aint gonna pay more back than you owe!
Now the current dom has started taking holidays for this year off individuals who he know's owe RM..
Can he do this without even knowing what people owe...all the staff are willing to pay the money back But at a reasonable rate only when they work out what the actually owe.....
Any help on this matter would be welcome!
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Buying annual leave URGENT
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Pat Ostman
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Well I doubt he can take back more (and leave you less than the) 4.5 weeks allowed by law.
A ballsup should be treated as such and not the fault of the posties. The most he should be able to do is claw back the money slowley.
A ballsup should be treated as such and not the fault of the posties. The most he should be able to do is claw back the money slowley.
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floydy
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Yeh but my point is, they cannot even work out what is owed and they are clawing back without asking! 
SO he is taking A\L of people before finding out what they owe...Cannot be right in my opinion
SO he is taking A\L of people before finding out what they owe...Cannot be right in my opinion
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Pat Ostman
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Re: Buying annual leave URGENT
floydy wrote:Yeh but my point is, they cannot even work out what is owed and they are clawing back without asking!
Contact your union rep (local or area) as yes, they cant.
No paperwork, no proof, no clawback imho.
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floydy
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Re: Buying annual leave URGENT
Yeh thats what i was thinking, he has contacted area rep who told him to whack a grievence in, but one of the lads has holidays week after next that have been took off him today and is unsure what to do, i told him to just assume that he still has holidays and take them as dom has no feckin right to take them.....i think his arse is nippin a bit, cos the dom wont even hear him out.
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gerardy
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Re: Buying annual leave URGENT
Hello tell the dom to prove how much time he has to claw back (as you know he can't), and until he can prove it people who have booked leave should have their leave honoured. If he ever fines out what is owed, then and only then should you work out ways to repay it. Sounds like dom is taking the law into his own hands.
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floydy
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Re: Buying annual leave URGENT
thats exactly what he's doing, in the hope of hitting his bonus!
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Shrek
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Re: Buying annual leave URGENT
The manager must prove that there was a problem and the extent of the problem. It should also be the employee who decides if he wants to give holidays back or pay money back thats owed. The employee can then negoitiate his repayments but the manager is trying his mit a little stand up to him, he will probably crumble
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islfor
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Re: Buying annual leave URGENT
Put in a grivance against the stupid manager that f**ked it all up in the first place the stupid idiot !!!
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floydy
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Re: Buying annual leave URGENT
Shrek wrote:The manager must prove that there was a problem and the extent of the problem. It should also be the employee who decides if he wants to give holidays back or pay money back thats owed. The employee can then negoitiate his repayments but the manager is trying his mit a little stand up to him, he will probably crumble
just what i thought
islfor wrote:Put in a grivance against the stupid manager that f**ked it all up in the first place the stupid idiot !!!
he got sacked about 2 year back
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floydy
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Re: Buying annual leave URGENT
THE LAD WHO GOT HIS HOLIDAYS TOOK OFF HIM HAS GOT THEM BACK TODAY!
After my thoughts where reinforced by posters on this board, I had a word with the lad in question and told him dom had no right taking them so another Dom gave him them back...
RESULT.
After my thoughts where reinforced by posters on this board, I had a word with the lad in question and told him dom had no right taking them so another Dom gave him them back...
RESULT.
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Shrek
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Re: Buying annual leave URGENT
floydy wrote:THE LAD WHO GOT HIS HOLIDAYS TOOK OFF HIM HAS GOT THEM BACK TODAY!
After my thoughts where reinforced by posters on this board, I had a word with the lad in question and told him dom had no right taking them so another Dom gave him them back...
RESULT.
Glad we were able to help. Sounds like your DIM is just another Bully and when he was stood up to he crumbled