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what is the official rule:D2D Prepping

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rowdogg
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what is the official rule:D2D Prepping

Post by rowdogg »

on door to doors, do they hae to be done in your own time.
shelanda
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Re: what is the official rule

Post by shelanda »

20% a day should be included in any revisions
mclovin
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Re: what is the official rule

Post by mclovin »

D2D's should NOT be delivered in your own time, only within the time frame of your duty, that includes putting them together/prepping.
DGP1
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Re: what is the official rule

Post by DGP1 »

This keeps coming up so I think it's about time the union sent everybody a handy instruction card stating that D2Ds are to be done in RM time only and that it's 20% per day.
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rowdogg
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Re: what is the official rule

Post by rowdogg »

thanks guys,just manager said prepping of d2d has to be done in own time. he'll argue black is white, hes one of those
DGP1
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Post by DGP1 »

The agreement is in the downloads section.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=11243
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luddite
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Re: what is the official rule

Post by luddite »

rowdogg wrote:thanks guys,just manager said prepping of d2d has to be done in own time. he'll argue black is white, hes one of those
He's a liar, take a grievance against him and watch the blood drain out of his face. :Very Happy
97gaz
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Post by 97gaz »

Just tell the t**t that you haven't got time to do them in your own time and therefore they won't get done.
Himaggen
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Re: what is the official rule

Post by Himaggen »

rowdogg wrote:thanks guys,just manager said prepping of d2d has to be done in own time. he'll argue black is white, hes one of those
I suppose it also depends what you mean by prepping.
As far as I know you are not supposed to, for instance, place one or more items inside another in order to effectively create a single item for the delivery point. If you wish to do this then I suppose because it's not allowed then that particular process should not be absorbed into your duty.
You should however be given sufficient time to place the items along side the mail either inside the frame slot or whichever other method suits your delivery style.
BELIAL
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Post by BELIAL »

canolman wrote:
rowdogg wrote:thanks guys,just manager said prepping of d2d has to be done in own time. he'll argue black is white, hes one of those
He's a liar, take a grievance against him and watch the blood drain out of his face. :Very Happy
Politely ask him for his written instruction as conformation ,get it signed dated and witnessed . A reasonable request that no right thinking ,confident manager could refuse :wink:
Bye
silverback
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Post by silverback »

AND he if doesnt believe the national agreement on D2D tell him to check out these two ROYAL MAIL documents :-
a) RM DOCUMENT – STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, PREPARE FOR DELIVERY, BULLET POINT 6
b) RM DOCUMENT – HOW TO FIX GUIDE, PIPELINE OPTIMISATION, CORRECT DELIVERY OF MAIL, KEY STANDARDS

NOT CWU documents...RM documents.

These can be found by anyone on the intranet site.
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madelin4
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Re: what is the official rule

Post by madelin4 »

rowdogg wrote:thanks guys,just manager said prepping of d2d has to be done in own time. he'll argue black is white, hes one of those
Yes, ours is the same!!! In the end i had to just use some break time to do them!! Great H&S :hmmmm
fasterthanyou
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Post by fasterthanyou »

madelin4 wrote:
rowdogg wrote:thanks guys,just manager said prepping of d2d has to be done in own time. he'll argue black is white, hes one of those
Yes, ours is the same!!! In the end i had to just use some break time to do them!! Great H&S :hmmmm

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floydy
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Re: what is the official rule

Post by floydy »

Yeh i just found this out yesterday, but the idea that the union should let everyone is a good one as my rep was not even sure!!!!!!!

now i know and have read the agreement im in a much stronger position to stand up to dom in one sentence...


SHOW ME THE AGREEMENT
opgpat
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Re: what is the official rule

Post by opgpat »

fasterthanyou wrote:
madelin4 wrote:
rowdogg wrote:thanks guys,just manager said prepping of d2d has to be done in own time. he'll argue black is white, hes one of those
Yes, ours is the same!!! In the end i had to just use some break time to do them!! Great H&S :hmmmm
if you used your own break time you are an arsehole,m8 a coward,a shitebag
lol that made me laugh. A bit strong. RM Managers can be very good at intimidating people, many are experts infact. Let's say they are the shitebags and this poor guy is looking for as stress-free day as possible. Having said that you are STUPID to come in early or stay late and work for these ungrateful scum for nothing. D2D IS PART OF YOUR DUTY. Just like doing your redirects and collecting your specials, IT'S DONE IN WORK TIME!!!! RM ARE NOT A CHARITY!! And even charity workers get paid a wage for their time!!!!