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Divisional reps and chairs elections 2009

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Big Daz
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Divisional reps and chairs elections 2009

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LTB 122/09 - Elections
No. 122/09 Ref: PM/km Date: 12th February 2009
To: Branches with POSTAL Members
Dear Colleague
Election of:
Royal Mail Divisional Representatives
Royal Mail Divisional Representative - Substitutes
Royal Mail Divisional Chair
1. Royal Mail Divisional Representatives
Royal Mail Divisional Representative - Substitute
Nominations are invited from Branches within the relevant divisions for the position of Royal Mail Divisional Representative (2 per division) and Royal Mail Divisional Representative - Substitute (1 per Division) for the following divisions:
Anglia
London
Midland
North East
North Wales/North West
Scotland/Northern Ireland
South Central
South East
South West/South Wales
The term of office for these positions is two years and the successful candidates will take up office at the end of March 2009 however candidates should be aware that the above positions and divisions have been under review for sometime by the CWU & Royal Mail and therefore the term of office may be subject to change.
Nomination forms are available on request from the Senior Deputy General Secretary Department and completed forms that must be signed by the Branch Secretary and Branch Chair or accredited deputies and the nominee should be returned to Tony Kearns, Senior Deputy General Secretary, by 6th March 2009 (14.00).
The timetable for the election is as follows:
Nominations Open: 16th February 2009
Nominations Close: 6th March 2009 (14.00)
Ballot Papers dispatched 16th March 2009
Ballot Close 30th March 2009 (first post)
If Ballots are required for the positions of RM Divisional Representative and RM Divisional Representative – Substitute they will be conducted on a individual member ballot basis and the ballots will be run in accordance with the CWU guidelines for senior Regional/Field official elections, which are attached for your information.

2. Royal Mail Divisional Chair
Nominations are invited from Branches within the relevant divisions for the position of Divisional Chair:
Anglia
London
Midland
North East
North Wales/North West
Scotland/Northern Ireland
South Central
South East
South West/South Wales
The term of office for these positions is two years and the successful candidates will take up office at the end of March 2009 however candidates should be aware that the above positions and divisions have been under review for sometime by the CWU & Royal Mail and therefore the term of office may be subject to change
Nomination forms are available on request from the Senior Deputy General Secretary Department and completed forms that must be signed by the Branch Secretary and Branch Chair or accredited deputies and the nominee should be returned to Tony Kearns, Senior Deputy General Secretary, by 6th March 2009 (14.00).
The timetable for the election is as follows:
Nominations Open: 16th February 2009
Nominations Close: 6th March 2009 (14.00)
Ballot Papers dispatched 16th March 2009
Ballot Close 30th March 2009 (first post)
If Ballots are required for the positions of RM Divisional Chair they will be conducted on a branch ballot basis and therefore paragraphs 8,9,10 and 11 of the attached Guidelines are not applicable on this occasion.
Any enquiries regarding this LTB should be addressed to the Senior Deputy General Secretary’s Department on telephone number 0208 971 7237 or email address sdgs@cwu.org.
Yours sincerely
Tony Kearns
Senior Deputy General Secretary


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Is there any person who can answer the following two questions thanks.

1) Question? anybody know why these elections have come about now?

2) Question? when did these elections last take place?
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The term of office for these positions is two years
I'm presuming it's because of the above.
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Yes Postman, if you could give me the details, cheers
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It might be worth emailing Tony Kearns

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Divisonal Reps elections have not been run for over 5 years. The reason for this is that unlike any other reprsentaive position in the union (ie area reps, unit rep, PEC) Divisional Reps have to sign a variation of contract with Royal Mail. Royal 5 years ago said they would be refusing to do this and if the elections went up then they would cease the positon and protentially the Diviisonal Reps would be redundant.

The reason why Royal Mail threatened this is that they wanted to abolish Divisional Reps and change the iR framework. Their rationale is that they had moved away from their 9 Divisional structure in 1998 to an 31 AGM structure.

For the last two years conference policy has insturcted the PEC to hold the Elections. The National officers attempted to get Royal Mail`s agreement for the elections and also deal with some indivduals who then want VR as they are no longer attached to their parrent offices and therefore are not considered by Royal Mail as eligable for VR.

The CWU were close to an agreement with Ninean Wilson before he was shown the door.

The elections however could not be delayed any longer and therefore have come out. But they are no guartnees that Royal Mail will honour those elected.

What has helped is that Royal Mail`s new regional structure has moved back to the old divisional strucutre.
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Mr Dingo, cheers but I think it maybe something else that you may or not know about, can I asked you this since you seem to be clued up, what about the General Secretarys position, since this is his second term in office can he follow on to a third term or finish at the age of 60 retirement age?
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Irish staff he can carry on. The UCW and the then CWU had a rule you had to go at 60 but the age discrimnation law now allow officers to stay on.

More improtantly is there has been a court case involving another union gerneral secretary which the courts ruling is that protentialy he does not need to stand for GS again. No doubt General secretaries in other unions will be looking at this option including Billy if he chooses to go for another term.
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irishstaff wrote:Mr Dingo, cheers but I think it maybe something else that you may or not know about, can I asked you this since you seem to be clued up, what about the General Secretarys position, since this is his second term in office can he follow on to a third term or finish at the age of 60 retirement age?

Irishstaff

Do you belive there are mbrs/reps/officers in the CWU who are capable of taking on the GS job and are they at national level yet or below at divsional/regional/area/local level.
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Big Daz wrote:
irishstaff wrote:Mr Dingo, cheers but I think it maybe something else that you may or not know about, can I asked you this since you seem to be clued up, what about the General Secretarys position, since this is his second term in office can he follow on to a third term or finish at the age of 60 retirement age?

Irishstaff

Do you belive there are mbrs/reps/officers in the CWU who are capable of taking on the GS job and are they at national level yet or below at divsional/regional/area/local level.
You missed out local zoo :wink:
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big daz of course there is but i dont know who would want to try and fill them trousers! they would need to eat a brave lot of desperate dan cow pies for a brave few years along with telling and eating porky pies every day.
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Big Daz, you could even do the job? you could even collect the HUGE wage packet as well! even Mr Dingo could do the job, I would say he has even throught about it as well? Y do you think you have to be clever to do this job think again m8, sure look who's doing it now?
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Come on Big Daz...you could fit it into your ever expanding portfolio...IR Rep, Branch Political Officer,Resident RMC Political Officer, Substitute Area Health and Safety Rep...GS...no probs!!!! :Very Happy
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LTB 210/09 - Royal Mail Divisional Elections 2009

No. 210/09 Ref: PM/lm Date: 6th March 2009
To: All Branches
Dear Colleague

Election Of:
Royal Mail Divisional Representatives
Royal Mail Divisional Representative Substitutes
Royal Mail Divisional Chair

Further to LTB 122/09 dated 12th February 2009
Further to LTB 122/09 dated 12 February 2009

Please note that at the close of nominations on 6th March 2009 the following nominations were received.

1. Royal Mail Divisional Representatives

Anglia
Barry Jennings - Northern Home Counties Postal ELECTED
Dennis King - Essex Amal ELECTED
London
Mark Palfrey - SE London Postal & Counter ELECTED
Martin Walsh - London South West ELECTED
Midland
Michael Kavanagh - Coventry Area ELECTED
Paul Kennedy - Birmingham District Amal ELECTED
North East
Gary Hodkinson - South Yorks & District Amal ELECTED
Bob McGuire - Newcastle Amal ELECTED

North Wales/North West
Ian Taylor - Greater Manchester BALLOT
Tony Williams - Merseyside Amal BALLOT
Steve Wright - Cheshire No 1 Amal BALLOT
Scotland/Northern Ireland
Stuart McIntosh - Scotland No 2 ELECTED
Norrie Watson - Glasgow & District Amal ELECTED
South Central
Dennis Kilgariff - South Central No 1 BALLOT
Ian Murphy - Harrow & District BALLOT
Roger Seaborn - South West 7 BALLOT
Dave Warren - South East No 5 BALLOT
South East
Peter Sinnott - Southdowns Amal ELECTED
Sean Tait - Kent Invicta ELECTED
South West/South Wales
Stephen Coombes - Western Counties Amal BALLOT
Andy Nash - Bristol & District Amal BALLOT
Chris Webb - Plymouth & East Cornwall Amal BALLOT
2. Royal Mail Divisional Representative - Substitute
Anglia
Adam Oakes - Eastern No 5 ELECTED
London
John Simkins - London West End Amal ELECTED
Midland
Simon Edmunds - Nottingham & Dist Amal BALLOT
Eric Holmes - Coventry Area BALLOT
North East
Stephen Halliwell - Newcastle Amal BALLOT
Richard Isdell - South Yorkshire & Dist BALLOT
Dave Walton - Lees No 1 Amal BALLOT
North Wales/North West
Mark Bolton - North Lancs & Cumbria BALLOT
Paul Fenney - Wigan Amal BALLOT
Ernie Jackson - Merseyside Amal BALLOT
David Skingsley - North Wales & Marches BALLOT
Steve Wright - Cheshire No 1 Amal BALLOT
Scotland/Northern Ireland
Rab Storrie - Scotland No 5 ELECTED
South Central
Geoff Loftus - Harrow & Dist BALLOT
Duane Turish - Portsmouth & Dist BALLOT
South East
Stephen Wiseley - South & East Thames Amal ELECTED
South West/South Wales
Les Evans - South West Wales Amal BALLOT
Paul Trehearne - Gloucestershire Amal BALLOT
3. Royal Mail Divisional Chair
Anglia
Adam Oakes - Eastern No 5 - ELECTED
London
Paul O'Donnell - Rail, Stations & Transport Amal ELECTED
Midland
Ronnie Hansrani - Leicestershire ELECTED
North East
No Nominations Received
North Wales/North West
Leonard Callaghan - Greater Manchester ELECTED
Scotland/Northern Ireland
No Nominations Received
South Central
Wayne Levy - South East No 5 BALLOT
John Thwaites - South Central No 1 BALLOT
South East
Darran McCann - Kent Invicta ELECTED
South West/South Wales
Doug Lillicrap - Plymouth & East Cornwall ELECTED

PLEASE NOTE:
The elections for RM Divisional Representatives and RM Divisional Representative Substitutes will be by individual member ballot. The elections for RM Divisional Chair will be by branch ballot.
The timetable for the elections is:

Ballot papers despatch 16th March 2009
Ballot close 30th March 2009 (First Post)

Any enquires in regards to the elections should be directed to Tony Kearns, Senior Deputy General Secretary on telephone number 020 8971 7237 or email address sdgs@cwu.org.
Any enquires in regards to the elections should be directed to Tony Kearns, Senior Deputy General Secretary on telephone number 020 8971 7237 or email address .

Yours sincerely

Tony Kearns
Senior Deputy General Secretary
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You should have gone for one of these jobs Big Daz...noone to stand against in many cases!

What a sad state of affairs so many posts are uncontested....