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Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
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islfor
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Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
In our office, we have realised that some AWD have gone missing ? Reduced from 40hrs to 35hrs on static duties on rotas.
The CWU was unaware of this until he received the business plan proposal for this years savings. Can he get these hours back by using the I.R. Framework ?
Am I right in saying that the only way to reduce the office core baseline hours if RM & CWU both agree ?
The CWU was unaware of this until he received the business plan proposal for this years savings. Can he get these hours back by using the I.R. Framework ?
Am I right in saying that the only way to reduce the office core baseline hours if RM & CWU both agree ?
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Big Daz
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
There is aggrement that is or is similar to what you have asked.
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pcb
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
Get your rep to ask the manager for a breakdown of the AWD before and after. Ask the manager where are the written proposals as per the IRF. If the manager refuses contact your Area Rep and instigate an inprincipled disagreement. Has the manager changed the duties when they have become vancant?
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DGP1
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
What's AWD?
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
Yes as soon as someone posts it I'll put it in our Glossary.disgruntledpostie1 wrote:What's AWD?
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
did the rep not notice that they had done a paul Daniels. does he not attend weekly resource meetings. 
rmld.....
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DGP1
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
What's a weekly resource meeting?marky wrote:did the rep not notice that they had done a paul Daniels. does he not attend weekly resource meetings.
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
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johnnyp
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
Actual Working Dutiesdisgruntledpostie1 wrote:What's AWD?
The staff used(not including Reserves)to run an office.
Example
30 Walks
4 drivers
2 Ex PHGs
18 Rest day covers
=54 AWDs
Which may need an additional 9 reserves to cover A/L and S/L
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johnnyp
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=12715" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;disgruntledpostie1 wrote:What's a weekly resource meeting?marky wrote:did the rep not notice that they had done a paul Daniels. does he not attend weekly resource meetings.
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islfor
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
What has happened is a 40hr guy has retired and they have used a 35hr guy instead on his job.
All duties in that rota was 40hrs
Duty1 40
Duty2 40
Duty3 40
Duty4 40
duty5 40
Reserve 35 was previous 40.....They cannot do that without CWU agreement ?
SORRY should have said FLOATER 35hrs not reserve
All duties in that rota was 40hrs
Duty1 40
Duty2 40
Duty3 40
Duty4 40
duty5 40
Reserve 35 was previous 40.....They cannot do that without CWU agreement ?
SORRY should have said FLOATER 35hrs not reserve
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islfor
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
FLOATER 35 not reserve, he is covering F/T on 35 hrs ????
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DGP1
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
They're trying it on in my office but have reduced the hours to 30 to cover a FT duty.
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Big Daz
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
FT IPS duties can be covered on PT hours by simply not requiring IPS to be done. Then the danger is you dont have enough IPS hours and those who are left to do IPS get on their frames late and extend or cut off.
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johnnyp
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Re: Reduction in AWD without consultation with CWU !!
So they have nicked 1 hour a day over the 5 day week and expect the remaining staff to swallow up his IPS
Get a dissagrement in under the IR Framework and demand the Status Quo be maintained before they took those hours out and that duty put back to what it was while talks take place to get an agreement through the IR Framework.
Get a dissagrement in under the IR Framework and demand the Status Quo be maintained before they took those hours out and that duty put back to what it was while talks take place to get an agreement through the IR Framework.