overtime

royalstar · Post by **royalstar** » 29 Nov 2008, 19:41

do we have to work overtime?
I am sure it says in my contract that I do have to?

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 29 Nov 2008, 23:39

Yep and you can never be sick, and your first born male offspring will automatically become the property of your employer.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 29 Nov 2008, 23:46

You forgot the 4 weeks notice for dying

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 30 Nov 2008, 00:06

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:You forgot the 4 weeks notice for dying

I thought our union were conducting a vigorous political campaign to rescind that one ? My profound apologies for my misplaced optimism

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 30 Nov 2008, 07:37

BELIAL wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:You forgot the 4 weeks notice for dying
I thought our union were conducting a vigorous political campaign to rescind that one ? My profound apologies for my misplaced optimism

Actually they have come to an agreement where the local rep can back date the 14 page application as long as it is supported by relevant documentation, family members statements (pre-internment, cremation if possible) , and photographic evidence that you are in fact deceased. However a temporary contract may be required for family members to complete a delivery if the act of dying occurred whilst on duty, however, due to the obvious distress caused by such a sudden and unexpected occurrence, and in line with Royal Mails family friendly policy they will allow the family 24 hours to complete any unfinished portion of the delivery.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 30 Nov 2008, 07:48

royalstar wrote:do we have to work overtime?
I am sure it says in my contract that I do have to?

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Indeed it does but it does say voluntary first and I am sure there will be plenty of people willing to take the offer. But if the clause is there no doubt Royal Mail will use it at some point.

However, I would like to know what the legal opinion on this would be - is it enforceable.

axeman · Post by **axeman** » 30 Nov 2008, 15:07

I'd say the word voluntary sums it all up what ever else might be in a contract they will never be able to insist you do compulsory over time in law voluntary would mean just that if you were expected to do over time then surely there would have to be a special payments made weekly for them to use the optional / enforced o/t scenario

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 30 Nov 2008, 15:48

At the moment I am on a duty that has fixed SA, I have to work the day off apparently, no choice

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 30 Nov 2008, 19:23

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
BELIAL wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:You forgot the 4 weeks notice for dying
I thought our union were conducting a vigorous political campaign to rescind that one ? My profound apologies for my misplaced optimism
Actually they have come to an agreement where the local rep can back date the 14 page application as long as it is supported by relevant documentation, family members statements (pre-internment, cremation if possible) , and photographic evidence that you are in fact deceased. However a temporary contract may be required for family members to complete a delivery if the act of dying occurred whilst on duty, however, due to the obvious distress caused by such a sudden and unexpected occurrence, and in line with Royal Mails family friendly policy they will allow the family 24 hours to complete any unfinished portion of the delivery.

Do you still trigger a stage warning if you peg it at work or is it classed as AOD

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 30 Nov 2008, 19:45

BELIAL wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
BELIAL wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:You forgot the 4 weeks notice for dying
I thought our union were conducting a vigorous political campaign to rescind that one ? My profound apologies for my misplaced optimism
Actually they have come to an agreement where the local rep can back date the 14 page application as long as it is supported by relevant documentation, family members statements (pre-internment, cremation if possible) , and photographic evidence that you are in fact deceased. However a temporary contract may be required for family members to complete a delivery if the act of dying occurred whilst on duty, however, due to the obvious distress caused by such a sudden and unexpected occurrence, and in line with Royal Mails family friendly policy they will allow the family 24 hours to complete any unfinished portion of the delivery.

Do you still trigger a stage warning if you peg it at work or is it classed as AOD

Well, according to the managers in my office you'll still trigger a stage because if you die on the job then it has to be your fault and therefore cannot be classed as an AOD

Post by **baldrick** » 30 Nov 2008, 20:33

Especially if you weren't wearing your RM shoes and hi vis vest at the moment you shuffled off this mortal coil -
though they may overlook the RM shoes if you were in a hospital bed at the time.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 01 Dec 2008, 13:30

baldrick wrote:Especially if you weren't wearing your RM shoes and hi vis vest at the moment you shuffled off this mortal coil -
though they may overlook the RM shoes if you were in a hospital bed at the time.

Ahhh but only if the bed and associated tubing and life support machines have been risk assessed and are in line with the WFD agreement. (Way approved For Dying).