Are RM about to force us to work the Xmas Sunday’s

geopip · Post by **geopip** » 24 Nov 2008, 19:49

I have heard Managers are planning to change people’s duties to include covering the enquiry office on Sunday’s over the Xmas period, as they are unlikely to get volunteers to cover it on overtime (4 hours SA). Do our employment contracts allow them to do this?

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 24 Nov 2008, 19:59

There is no way I will be working in Callers

LDV 350 · Post by **LDV 350** » 24 Nov 2008, 20:19

Sunday has always been a voluntary shift if your eyes were blue enough to get one, for me it's a family day etc for others it's their day for religion, i think you'd get a bumper claim if they told you that you cant worship this Christmas as they are to busy to let you have your sunday off to do so

Up Hill Down Hill · Post by **Up Hill Down Hill** » 24 Nov 2008, 20:35

By law you don't have to work a 48 hours + week... I currently work 48 hours so no Sunday for me ;)

geopip · Post by **geopip** » 24 Nov 2008, 22:07

Up Hill Down Hill wrote:By law you don't have to work a 48 hours + week... I currently work 48 hours so no Sunday for me ;)

Unless of course they change your duty to take in Sunday’s and keep you with in the working time directive?

not me · Post by **not me** » 24 Nov 2008, 22:19

not gonna happen for me,i watch my son on Sundays.
already told em theres no way im doing Sundays,used to though

geopip · Post by **geopip** » 24 Nov 2008, 22:24

We need someone to check their contract, my one is long past its sell by date

Can you be made to work on Sundays?
You should check either your contract of employment or written statement of terms and conditions to see if you must work on Sundays or would have to if you were asked. If it says so, you'll have to work on Sundays. If it doesn't, then the only way of making you work on that day is by a change to your contract. This is something that must normally be agreed by both you and your employer, otherwise making you work on Sundays would amount to a breach of contract.

Post by **Lounge Lizard** » 25 Nov 2008, 05:45

Royal Mail have announced that there will be Sunday and evening deliveries - but they haven't asked their staff yet ?

bogstandard · Post by **bogstandard** » 25 Nov 2008, 08:08

what you have is "custom and practice".
In all your time employed by RM, working a Sunday has been voluntary.
If during the times they are looking at the custom and practice is that to work on a Sunday is voluntary then this holds the field.
Tow this line and don't deviate, you may be forced to go through the stages of disagreement so go through them it all takes time. It will get pushed back down only to go back up again.

andy2007 · Post by **andy2007** » 25 Nov 2008, 09:39

Lounge Lizard wrote:Royal Mail have announced that there will be Sunday and evening deliveries - but they haven't asked their staff yet ?

They've probably arranged for Agency Staff to do the Sundays.

galaxie500 · Post by **galaxie500** » 25 Nov 2008, 14:39

at my office there just asking for volunteer drivers to take out redeliveries evenings 6 till 9 and sunday on docket

greynut · Post by **greynut** » 25 Nov 2008, 18:16

Lounge Lizard wrote:Royal Mail have announced that there will be Sunday and evening deliveries - but they haven't asked their staff yet ?

We are already delivering on Sundays.

celerycelery · Post by **celerycelery** » 25 Nov 2008, 18:56

Dont panic. Its just going to be packets and parcels and all done on a volunteering basis.

mailman71 · Post by **mailman71** » 25 Nov 2008, 19:13

why do people panic about nothing,if you dont want to do overtime they cant force you.

ad0128 · Post by **ad0128** » 25 Nov 2008, 19:51

As far as i'm aware the late evening deliveries have all been refused by the drivers in my office. Not ideal but economics say i have too