I'm relatively new to all this, signed up a hile ago & have just found the value of this site.
One question I hope one of you can answer for me... I have been a postie now for 23 years and today received my annual leave card for 2009 / 10.
This states that my entitlement is 5 weeks I thought after 20 years service the entitlement was 6 weeks, this is also true of last year.
I may be completely wrong but any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Kev241
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Its all in the "Way Forward Agreement" which you can download from http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=11941
However the relevant section about leave is quoted below but there are further details dealing with Annual Leave in the agreement:
However the relevant section about leave is quoted below but there are further details dealing with Annual Leave in the agreement:
1.ANNUAL LEAVE
Introduction
This agreement on Annual Leave covers the new operational and operational support grades from 3 April 2000, and will deliver a further reduction in working time for many employees. It replaces all existing national and local agreements on leave from 3 April 2000, and local agreements reached after that date must confirm in full with these provisions.
Leave Entitlements
This agreement delivers improved leave opportunities, principally by providing front-line employees for the first time with the maximum six weeks annual holiday. The agreement also incorporates former “privilege days” (Post Office Holidays) into standard entitlements, giving more flexibility over how and when these may be taken, and offers all employees the chance to opt for the maximum six weeks’ leave, in lieu of pay, even before 20 years’ service is achieved. The new leave entitlements, which include and replace the days previously taken separately as “Post Office privilege days”, will be as follows:
On entry = Four and a half weeks After 15 years = Five weeks 1 day
After 5 years = Four weeks 3.5 days After 20 years = Six weeks
These entitlements are expressed in weeks and days, with a week’s leave being a whole week irrespective of how many attendances are due. A half week’s leave is a number of odd days equal to half the average number of weekly attendances due. Any balance of entitlement to odd days represents that number of daily attendances, except where a (full- or part-time) job requires three or fewer attendances per week, in week case the balance of odd days entitlement is reduced pro-rata to a five day week, rounded to the nearest half day (e.g. the entitlement for a three-day week employee with 5 years service is 4 weeks 2 days).
All periods of service on a temporary or permanent contract (with periods of casual service included only if they run continuously into a temporary or permanent contract), except for those on unpaid leave, SPPR, or with HM Forces exceeding 15 days, will count towards calculating leave due. Previous periods of PO service may be counted for this purpose.
For part-years worked, or where the entitlement changes mid-year, the entitlement will be calculated pro-rata to the proportion(s) of the year worked, rounded to the nearest half day.
Leave purchase option
Over and above standard entitlements, employees with less than 20 years’ service will have the chance to increase their holiday entitlement to (or towards) 6 weeks per year, by foregoing an element of basic pay. This will offer those employees who might find it attractive to take more time off from work, earlier in their career, additional annual holidays in lieu of pay. This choice must be exercised for at least one whole leave year, and for each whole week of additional leave the basic pay will be adjusted by 2%. The maximum holiday entitlement that may be gained in this way is six weeks per year. Obviously once the higher level of leave becomes an entitlement through service, or if the employee opts to return to their standard entitlement, pay is then adjusted back upwards. There will therefore be the following options for the new operational grade (at national rates, with similar proportionate options for Inner and Outer London and for the support grade, and pro-rata options for part-time employees) for full-time employees with less than 20 years’ service:
Standard on entry = basic pay £218.48 pw with four and a half weeks’ holiday
Option 1 = basic pay £216.30 pw with five weeks’ holiday
Option 2 = basic pay £211.93 pw with six weeks’ holiday
Standard at max = basic pay £242.76 pw with four and a half weeks’ holiday
Option 1 = basic pay £240.33 pw with five weeks’ holiday
Option 2 = basic pay £235.48 pw with six weeks’ holiday
Standard after 5 years = basic pay £242.76 pw with four weeks 3.5 days’ holiday
Option = basic pay £236.45 pw with six weeks’ holiday
Standard after 15 years = basic pay £242.76 pw with five weeks 1 day holiday
Option = basic pay £238.87 pw with six weeks’ holiday
These options are provided entirely as a choice for the individual employee, and this is agreed without prejudice to any future discussions on enhancing national entitlements generally. In no circumstances may leave from the standard national entitlements be reduced, neither may un-taken leave or other time off in lieu be “sold” or converted into pay. Exceptionally for the first year only, any employees opting for additional leave in this way will have their basic pay adjusted from Monday 8 May 2000.
Calculating leave
For the purposes of calculating leave, each attendance during a week will be classified as either a whole or a half day. Thus most operational duties will be classified as either a four-, a five-, a five and a half-, or a six-day week attendance.
If a whole week’s leave is broken into odd days, it will be equivalent to the number of days attendance to which the employee is conditioned during that week.
A half day’s leave requires attendance for half of the net hours of the day.
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baldrick
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So yes you should be getting 6 weeks AL, and RM owes you an additional week from last year.kev241 wrote:I'm relatively new to all this, signed up a hile ago & have just found the value of this site.
One question I hope one of you can answer for me... I have been a postie now for 23 years and today received my annual leave card for 2009 / 10.
This states that my entitlement is 5 weeks I thought after 20 years service the entitlement was 6 weeks, this is also true of last year.
I may be completely wrong but any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Kev241
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jafferpants
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After 23 years you should be getting 8 weeks a/l. Thats 6weeks A/l and 2weeks sick leave 
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shelanda
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jafferpants wrote:After 23 years you should be getting 8 weeks a/l. Thats 6weeks A/l and 2weeks sick leave