Scrapping DM 26

[SpacePhoenix]

RM bosses don't want it to work and they know it can't work.

But failure will open up the opportunity to remove the mail delivery side of the operation. With the potential to renationalise the letters side of the operation and retain the profitable parcels. As long as they have shown they "tried" to make it work is all they need.

It will happen.

For that to happen they'd need to decide which MCs and DOs would be letters only and which ones would be packets only.

[Mr Rush]

For that to happen they'd need to decide which MCs and DOs would be letters only and which ones would be packets only.

Then the company can embrace its wildest fantasies, often seen leaked on here to make the latest agreement look highly conservative: no DOs, just owner-drivers pulling into a car park in an industrial estate while an HGV offloads walk-sorted yorks of packets straight off the back fresh from the IDS-owned Superhub. The MCs will have all been flogged off for the land under them and IDS will charge the government exorbitant fees to process stuff through the Superhub(s). As for the drastically reduced cohort left with the letters to deliver, it'll be the Yodel model where a van comes by your house and slings some trays. Zero local infrastructure.

[Barnacle]

This is what were looking to do on mon/tue
Meeting re physical and mental fatigue on daily basis
There is no work life balance
Your going home shattered ill stressed
Unable to enjoy rest of your day
Not even fit to look after kids etc
They have turned the workforce back to victorian standards
No duty of care from either RM or CWU
Offer OT crumbs in mornings to enable delivery gets out
Whilst increasing an already pressured outdoor element
So f**k you martin dave pec we are not putting up with forced conditions much longer

RM are laughing. Kretinsky chuckles. They absolutely love the way that they get no blame for the shambles they have created. Only the union which tried to stop it is blamed.

OFCOM agreed with RM to allow them to deliver 2c every other day and not at all on a Saturday. So DM26 or Heavy & Light, was on the cards from the day of that decision.

RM wanted the ODM which would have resulted in more job losses. The CWU successfully argued for a lesser version, DM26.

If DM26 doesn’t work, RM will have to stop trying to make their cuts via the backs of posties. Perhaps they should start looking at other parts of the business.

But in the meantime for the love of Mike, stop blaming the union for a shambles created by RM management.

[tramssirhc]

This is what were looking to do on mon/tue
Meeting re physical and mental fatigue on daily basis
There is no work life balance
Your going home shattered ill stressed
Unable to enjoy rest of your day
Not even fit to look after kids etc
They have turned the workforce back to victorian standards
No duty of care from either RM or CWU
Offer OT crumbs in mornings to enable delivery gets out
Whilst increasing an already pressured outdoor element
So f**k you martin dave pec we are not putting up with forced conditions much longer

RM are laughing. Kretinsky chuckles. They absolutely love the way that they get no blame for the shambles they have created. Only the union which tried to stop it is blamed.

OFCOM agreed with RM to allow them to deliver 2c every other day and not at all on a Saturday. So DM26 or Heavy & Light, was on the cards from the day of that decision.

RM wanted the ODM which would have resulted in more job losses. The CWU successfully argued for a lesser version, DM26.

If DM26 doesn’t work, RM will have to stop trying to make their cuts via the backs of posties. Perhaps they should start looking at other parts of the business.

But in the meantime for the love of Mike, stop blaming the union for a shambles created by RM management.

It absolutely is the unions fault. The agreement is clear that its a no go if it's not right but the CWU just wont say no.

[Barnacle]

This is what were looking to do on mon/tue
Meeting re physical and mental fatigue on daily basis
There is no work life balance
Your going home shattered ill stressed
Unable to enjoy rest of your day
Not even fit to look after kids etc
They have turned the workforce back to victorian standards
No duty of care from either RM or CWU
Offer OT crumbs in mornings to enable delivery gets out
Whilst increasing an already pressured outdoor element
So f**k you martin dave pec we are not putting up with forced conditions much longer

RM are laughing. Kretinsky chuckles. They absolutely love the way that they get no blame for the shambles they have created. Only the union which tried to stop it is blamed.

OFCOM agreed with RM to allow them to deliver 2c every other day and not at all on a Saturday. So DM26 or Heavy & Light, was on the cards from the day of that decision.

RM wanted the ODM which would have resulted in more job losses. The CWU successfully argued for a lesser version, DM26.

If DM26 doesn’t work, RM will have to stop trying to make their cuts via the backs of posties. Perhaps they should start looking at other parts of the business.

But in the meantime for the love of Mike, stop blaming the union for a shambles created by RM management.

It absolutely is the unions fault. The agreement is clear that its a no go if it's not right but the CWU just wont say no.

So if the union say No Go and RM go ahead anyway and it’s a shambles, that’s still the union’s fault is it?

[SpacePhoenix]

This is what were looking to do on mon/tue
Meeting re physical and mental fatigue on daily basis
There is no work life balance
Your going home shattered ill stressed
Unable to enjoy rest of your day
Not even fit to look after kids etc
They have turned the workforce back to victorian standards
No duty of care from either RM or CWU
Offer OT crumbs in mornings to enable delivery gets out
Whilst increasing an already pressured outdoor element
So f**k you martin dave pec we are not putting up with forced conditions much longer

RM are laughing. Kretinsky chuckles. They absolutely love the way that they get no blame for the shambles they have created. Only the union which tried to stop it is blamed.

OFCOM agreed with RM to allow them to deliver 2c every other day and not at all on a Saturday. So DM26 or Heavy & Light, was on the cards from the day of that decision.

RM wanted the ODM which would have resulted in more job losses. The CWU successfully argued for a lesser version, DM26.

If DM26 doesn’t work, RM will have to stop trying to make their cuts via the backs of posties. Perhaps they should start looking at other parts of the business.

But in the meantime for the love of Mike, stop blaming the union for a shambles created by RM management.

It absolutely is the unions fault. The agreement is clear that its a no go if it's not right but the CWU just wont say no.

So if the union say No Go and RM go ahead anyway and it’s a shambles, that’s still the union’s fault is it?

The union could have run a strike ballot.

[Barnacle]

This is what were looking to do on mon/tue
Meeting re physical and mental fatigue on daily basis
There is no work life balance
Your going home shattered ill stressed
Unable to enjoy rest of your day
Not even fit to look after kids etc
They have turned the workforce back to victorian standards
No duty of care from either RM or CWU
Offer OT crumbs in mornings to enable delivery gets out
Whilst increasing an already pressured outdoor element
So f**k you martin dave pec we are not putting up with forced conditions much longer

RM are laughing. Kretinsky chuckles. They absolutely love the way that they get no blame for the shambles they have created. Only the union which tried to stop it is blamed.

OFCOM agreed with RM to allow them to deliver 2c every other day and not at all on a Saturday. So DM26 or Heavy & Light, was on the cards from the day of that decision.

RM wanted the ODM which would have resulted in more job losses. The CWU successfully argued for a lesser version, DM26.

If DM26 doesn’t work, RM will have to stop trying to make their cuts via the backs of posties. Perhaps they should start looking at other parts of the business.

But in the meantime for the love of Mike, stop blaming the union for a shambles created by RM management.

It absolutely is the unions fault. The agreement is clear that its a no go if it's not right but the CWU just wont say no.

So if the union say No Go and RM go ahead anyway and it’s a shambles, that’s still the union’s fault is it?

The union could have run a strike ballot.

They haven’t gone live in any large offices yet. That’s when it will explode if they ignore demands to staff it correctly

[SpacePhoenix]

This is what were looking to do on mon/tue
Meeting re physical and mental fatigue on daily basis
There is no work life balance
Your going home shattered ill stressed
Unable to enjoy rest of your day
Not even fit to look after kids etc
They have turned the workforce back to victorian standards
No duty of care from either RM or CWU
Offer OT crumbs in mornings to enable delivery gets out
Whilst increasing an already pressured outdoor element
So f**k you martin dave pec we are not putting up with forced conditions much longer

RM are laughing. Kretinsky chuckles. They absolutely love the way that they get no blame for the shambles they have created. Only the union which tried to stop it is blamed.

OFCOM agreed with RM to allow them to deliver 2c every other day and not at all on a Saturday. So DM26 or Heavy & Light, was on the cards from the day of that decision.

RM wanted the ODM which would have resulted in more job losses. The CWU successfully argued for a lesser version, DM26.

If DM26 doesn’t work, RM will have to stop trying to make their cuts via the backs of posties. Perhaps they should start looking at other parts of the business.

But in the meantime for the love of Mike, stop blaming the union for a shambles created by RM management.

It absolutely is the unions fault. The agreement is clear that its a no go if it's not right but the CWU just wont say no.

So if the union say No Go and RM go ahead anyway and it’s a shambles, that’s still the union’s fault is it?

The union could have run a strike ballot.

They haven’t gone live in any large offices yet. That’s when it will explode if they ignore demands to staff it correctly

One of the larger DOs locally has already gone over. Before DTS come in, they were one of 3 DOs where we done the sequencing on the iLSM.

[Barnacle]

This is what were looking to do on mon/tue
Meeting re physical and mental fatigue on daily basis
There is no work life balance
Your going home shattered ill stressed
Unable to enjoy rest of your day
Not even fit to look after kids etc
They have turned the workforce back to victorian standards
No duty of care from either RM or CWU
Offer OT crumbs in mornings to enable delivery gets out
Whilst increasing an already pressured outdoor element
So f**k you martin dave pec we are not putting up with forced conditions much longer

RM are laughing. Kretinsky chuckles. They absolutely love the way that they get no blame for the shambles they have created. Only the union which tried to stop it is blamed.

OFCOM agreed with RM to allow them to deliver 2c every other day and not at all on a Saturday. So DM26 or Heavy & Light, was on the cards from the day of that decision.

RM wanted the ODM which would have resulted in more job losses. The CWU successfully argued for a lesser version, DM26.

If DM26 doesn’t work, RM will have to stop trying to make their cuts via the backs of posties. Perhaps they should start looking at other parts of the business.

But in the meantime for the love of Mike, stop blaming the union for a shambles created by RM management.

It absolutely is the unions fault. The agreement is clear that its a no go if it's not right but the CWU just wont say no.

So if the union say No Go and RM go ahead anyway and it’s a shambles, that’s still the union’s fault is it?

The union could have run a strike ballot.

They haven’t gone live in any large offices yet. That’s when it will explode if they ignore demands to staff it correctly

One of the larger DOs locally has already gone over. Before DTS come in, they were one of 3 DOs where we done the sequencing on the iLSM.

It’s not a large office. It will be a medium.

[tramssirhc]

This is what were looking to do on mon/tue
Meeting re physical and mental fatigue on daily basis
There is no work life balance
Your going home shattered ill stressed
Unable to enjoy rest of your day
Not even fit to look after kids etc
They have turned the workforce back to victorian standards
No duty of care from either RM or CWU
Offer OT crumbs in mornings to enable delivery gets out
Whilst increasing an already pressured outdoor element
So f**k you martin dave pec we are not putting up with forced conditions much longer

RM are laughing. Kretinsky chuckles. They absolutely love the way that they get no blame for the shambles they have created. Only the union which tried to stop it is blamed.

OFCOM agreed with RM to allow them to deliver 2c every other day and not at all on a Saturday. So DM26 or Heavy & Light, was on the cards from the day of that decision.

RM wanted the ODM which would have resulted in more job losses. The CWU successfully argued for a lesser version, DM26.

If DM26 doesn’t work, RM will have to stop trying to make their cuts via the backs of posties. Perhaps they should start looking at other parts of the business.

But in the meantime for the love of Mike, stop blaming the union for a shambles created by RM management.

It absolutely is the unions fault. The agreement is clear that its a no go if it's not right but the CWU just wont say no.

So if the union say No Go and RM go ahead anyway and it’s a shambles, that’s still the union’s fault is it?

The union could have run a strike ballot.

They haven’t gone live in any large offices yet. That’s when it will explode if they ignore demands to staff it correctly

And there we have it. Classic British trade unionism. It's okay if some of the membership lose. There's a simple calculation taught on the stage one reps course - you're only as strong as your weakest member. It is the CWU fault. The agreement works in our favour if it's used properly. The CWU isn't good enough to achieve that.

[Barnacle]

This is what were looking to do on mon/tue
Meeting re physical and mental fatigue on daily basis
There is no work life balance
Your going home shattered ill stressed
Unable to enjoy rest of your day
Not even fit to look after kids etc
They have turned the workforce back to victorian standards
No duty of care from either RM or CWU
Offer OT crumbs in mornings to enable delivery gets out
Whilst increasing an already pressured outdoor element
So f**k you martin dave pec we are not putting up with forced conditions much longer

RM are laughing. Kretinsky chuckles. They absolutely love the way that they get no blame for the shambles they have created. Only the union which tried to stop it is blamed.

OFCOM agreed with RM to allow them to deliver 2c every other day and not at all on a Saturday. So DM26 or Heavy & Light, was on the cards from the day of that decision.

RM wanted the ODM which would have resulted in more job losses. The CWU successfully argued for a lesser version, DM26.

If DM26 doesn’t work, RM will have to stop trying to make their cuts via the backs of posties. Perhaps they should start looking at other parts of the business.

But in the meantime for the love of Mike, stop blaming the union for a shambles created by RM management.

It absolutely is the unions fault. The agreement is clear that its a no go if it's not right but the CWU just wont say no.

So if the union say No Go and RM go ahead anyway and it’s a shambles, that’s still the union’s fault is it?

The union could have run a strike ballot.

They haven’t gone live in any large offices yet. That’s when it will explode if they ignore demands to staff it correctly

And there we have it. Classic British trade unionism. It's okay if some of the membership lose. There's a simple calculation taught on the stage one reps course - you're only as strong as your weakest member. It is the CWU fault. The agreement works in our favour if it's used properly. The CWU isn't good enough to achieve that.

The membership voted YES to this.

[tramssirhc]

And there we have it. Classic British trade unionism. It's okay if some of the membership lose. There's a simple calculation taught on the stage one reps course - you're only as strong as your weakest member. It is the CWU fault. The agreement works in our favour if it's used properly. The CWU isn't good enough to achieve that.

The membership voted YES to this.
[/quote]

No they didn't. A minority did.

[Barnacle]

And there we have it. Classic British trade unionism. It's okay if some of the membership lose. There's a simple calculation taught on the stage one reps course - you're only as strong as your weakest member. It is the CWU fault. The agreement works in our favour if it's used properly. The CWU isn't good enough to achieve that.

The membership voted YES to this.

No they didn't. A minority did.
[/quote]

YES won out. That’s democracy

[tramssirhc]

And there we have it. Classic British trade unionism. It's okay if some of the membership lose. There's a simple calculation taught on the stage one reps course - you're only as strong as your weakest member. It is the CWU fault. The agreement works in our favour if it's used properly. The CWU isn't good enough to achieve that.

The membership voted YES to this.

No they didn't. A minority did.

YES won out. That’s democracy
[/quote]

Again, here we have classic British trade unionism. The majority loses.

[Barnacle]

And there we have it. Classic British trade unionism. It's okay if some of the membership lose. There's a simple calculation taught on the stage one reps course - you're only as strong as your weakest member. It is the CWU fault. The agreement works in our favour if it's used properly. The CWU isn't good enough to achieve that.

The membership voted YES to this.

No they didn't. A minority did.

YES won out. That’s democracy

Again, here we have classic British trade unionism. The majority loses.
[/quote]

People who don’t vote don’t have a voice. The majority need to get off their arses and vote otherwise you get what the people who do vote want.

That is democracy.