Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

[CatEnthusiast13]

Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

[yellowbelly]

Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

Yes, whether they are observed is an entirely different matter.

[funkflex55]

Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

Is there a particular thing that you're referring to? Every company is legally obliged to follow health and safety laws. Of course things don't always go that way but things need reporting if so.

[ted_e_bear]

Yes loads, for example if you get bitten whilst posting a letter they'll refer you to the sheet you signed confirming you'd been issued a posting peg, or the video on how to approach and lift parcels that you also signed a sheet to confirm you watched.

[clashcityrocker]

Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

Yes and we are personally responsable for enforcing them.
Wilful avoidance of basic H&S used to be a sackable offence.

[tramssirhc]

Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

Yes we do.

[heraldmoth]

Somebody speak to this Karen, my health and safety is my own responsibility, Royal Mail has a framework to protect themselves but good god take some responsibility for yourself and colleagues

[CatEnthusiast13]

Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

Is there a particular thing that you're referring to? Every company is legally obliged to follow health and safety laws. Of course things don't always go that way but things need reporting if so.

Heya thanks
I meant in terms of whether there are still limits to maximum weight / sizes of parcels we can be expected to take?
And whether the company has a duty to provide manual handling equipment?
(E.g trolleys as in my depot theres not enough for everyone and the majority of those we have are damaged
I was just wondering since injuries are so frequent in my delivery office despite only having a small number of staff. And im not sure what the rules/ are rights actually are.

[Thommo44]

Somebody speak to this Karen, my health and safety is my own responsibility, Royal Mail has a framework to protect themselves but good god take some responsibility for yourself and colleagues

In any other industry, the unions hit you with a claim form before the accident investigation. Not saying it’s the right way, but companies that have a lot of claims are a lot more serious about health and safety.
2 recent accidents in my office, both should have been RIDDOR, the investigation was carried out without the union being involved

[funkflex55]

Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

Is there a particular thing that you're referring to? Every company is legally obliged to follow health and safety laws. Of course things don't always go that way but things need reporting if so.

Heya thanks
I meant in terms of whether there are still limits to maximum weight / sizes of parcels we can be expected to take?
And whether the company has a duty to provide manual handling equipment?
(E.g trolleys as in my depot theres not enough for everyone and the majority of those we have are damaged
I was just wondering since injuries are so frequent in my delivery office despite only having a small number of staff. And im not sure what the rules/ are rights actually are.

https://www.hseni.gov.uk/articles/manua ... mum,the%20

https://www.worksafe.uk.com/manual-hand ... d-to-know/

To summarize, there are no limits to the upper weight of what should be lifted as it varies with different situations. People have differering tolerance towards lifting too which will affect it.

As far as trollies, the company has clearly identified that there is a significant risk with doing the job the way they intend and that's why the LWT are in offices. These should be available to all staff as I believe that they are supposed to be used on all loops except where the terrain doesn't allow.

[tramssirhc]

Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

Is there a particular thing that you're referring to? Every company is legally obliged to follow health and safety laws. Of course things don't always go that way but things need reporting if so.

Heya thanks
I meant in terms of whether there are still limits to maximum weight / sizes of parcels we can be expected to take?
And whether the company has a duty to provide manual handling equipment?
(E.g trolleys as in my depot theres not enough for everyone and the majority of those we have are damaged
I was just wondering since injuries are so frequent in my delivery office despite only having a small number of staff. And im not sure what the rules/ are rights actually are.

The CWU agreed to workers taking anything and everything. The legislation requires control of risks such as lifting and this is controlled by the use of the dynamic risk assessment. There are limits on weights that have not changed since they were agreed some time ago. You will see equipment with weight limits on it.

Equipment is provided such as high capacity and light weight trollies. Unless it is agreed otherwise the use of a LWT is mandatory on deliveries. The introduction of LWT's was the control for the risk of carrying weights. Where a bag is to be carried it should be weighed and the weight recorded with weights reducing thought the delivery span.

Where an item is identified as too heavy measures should be put in place such as a two person lift or the use of a parcel truck. Items outside of the limits (basically bigger than a York) should be dealt with by Parcelforce. Heavy and oversized items are notified to offices everyday so there should be no surprises.

[CatEnthusiast13]

Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

Is there a particular thing that you're referring to? Every company is legally obliged to follow health and safety laws. Of course things don't always go that way but things need reporting if so.

Heya thanks
I meant in terms of whether there are still limits to maximum weight / sizes of parcels we can be expected to take?
And whether the company has a duty to provide manual handling equipment?
(E.g trolleys as in my depot theres not enough for everyone and the majority of those we have are damaged
I was just wondering since injuries are so frequent in my delivery office despite only having a small number of staff. And im not sure what the rules/ are rights actually are.

The CWU agreed to workers taking anything and everything. The legislation requires control of risks such as lifting and this is controlled by the use of the dynamic risk assessment. There are limits on weights that have not changed since they were agreed some time ago. You will see equipment with weight limits on it.

Equipment is provided such as high capacity and light weight trollies. Unless it is agreed otherwise the use of a LWT is mandatory on deliveries. The introduction of LWT's was the control for the risk of carrying weights. Where a bag is to be carried it should be weighed and the weight recorded with weights reducing thought the delivery span.

Where an item is identified as too heavy measures should be put in place such as a two person lift or the use of a parcel truck. Items outside of the limits (basically bigger than a York) should be dealt with by Parcelforce. Heavy and oversized items are notified to offices everyday so there should be no surprises.

Thanks!
Out of curiosity do many offices actually use the trolleys on all their loops?
In mine they are only used if unavoidable as it tends to take longer doing a loop with a trolley vs carrying a bad so theres not really time

And again do depots have scales installed?
I know mine doesn't have anything for us to weigh stuff with.

Just wondered whether these conditions were widespread throught the company or just limited to my area?

[yellowbelly]

Do we actually have any health and safety protections/ rules in this job?

Is there a particular thing that you're referring to? Every company is legally obliged to follow health and safety laws. Of course things don't always go that way but things need reporting if so.

Heya thanks
I meant in terms of whether there are still limits to maximum weight / sizes of parcels we can be expected to take?
And whether the company has a duty to provide manual handling equipment?
(E.g trolleys as in my depot theres not enough for everyone and the majority of those we have are damaged
I was just wondering since injuries are so frequent in my delivery office despite only having a small number of staff. And im not sure what the rules/ are rights actually are.

The CWU agreed to workers taking anything and everything. The legislation requires control of risks such as lifting and this is controlled by the use of the dynamic risk assessment. There are limits on weights that have not changed since they were agreed some time ago. You will see equipment with weight limits on it.

Equipment is provided such as high capacity and light weight trollies. Unless it is agreed otherwise the use of a LWT is mandatory on deliveries. The introduction of LWT's was the control for the risk of carrying weights. Where a bag is to be carried it should be weighed and the weight recorded with weights reducing thought the delivery span.

Where an item is identified as too heavy measures should be put in place such as a two person lift or the use of a parcel truck. Items outside of the limits (basically bigger than a York) should be dealt with by Parcelforce. Heavy and oversized items are notified to offices everyday so there should be no surprises.

Thanks!
Out of curiosity do many offices actually use the trolleys on all their loops?
In mine they are only used if unavoidable as it tends to take longer doing a loop with a trolley vs carrying a bad so theres not really time

And again do depots have scales installed?
I know mine doesn't have anything for us to weigh stuff with.

Just wondered whether these conditions were widespread throught the company or just limited to my area?

Widespread.

If you've dared to create and login to your 'Robin' account, there's a Health and Safety page with a link to Safe Systems Of Work for deliveries (and other functions) where you can view some of the SSOW that you're referring to. Some you need an RM Intranet account login.

[heraldmoth]

Somebody speak to this Karen, my health and safety is my own responsibility, Royal Mail has a framework to protect themselves but good god take some responsibility for yourself and colleagues

In any other industry, the unions hit you with a claim form before the accident investigation. Not saying it’s the right way, but companies that have a lot of claims are a lot more serious about health and safety.
2 recent accidents in my office, both should have been RIDDOR, the investigation was carried out without the union being involved

Regardless of how each unit deals post accident the initial post is more of the same from on here, people wanting theirs arses wiped. My own health and safety is and it should be the case for everyone the priority of any work day…all the policies are there, use them to make sure you mitigate any risk to yourself whatsoever for a company who doesn’t value its employees

[SpacePhoenix]

Heavy and oversized items are notified to offices everyday so there should be no surprises.

Must be just stuff that's come over from PF. They don't get weighed in MCs.