meal breaks

[eddieb]

Can anyone tell me what the meal breaks should be on the new long short days. We have been told we have to have 20minutes at 8.30.
Leaving 20 minutes for the next 6 or 7 hours. Can they do this ? New gaffer come in saying he can do what he wants. thanks

[dropbag_clone]

...and are we paid for our meal breaks, can we have them outside the office, can we have them whatever time it suits us best, two minutes before the end of our duty?

Can we have them split into 2 x 20 minute sessions.

In an office where meal breaks are as rare as rocking horse droppings this new focus on them by the management is creating more questions than answers.

[johnnyp]

MEAL BREAKS




Introduction

This agreement commences from 3 April 2000, and establishes a new national standard in relation to meal relief entitlements, together with a process for all offices to achieve it. This agreement replaces all existing national and local agreements on meal relief entitlements and provision. The new entitlements will be introduced alongside SWW as part of the performance improvement programme agreed within the context of PBS.

Fill-time meal break entitlements

All full-time employees working in delivery offices on a 40-hour gross week over five or six days will generally have a standard entitlement to 40 minutes meal break per day and 30 minutes on the shorter day (normally Saturday) of a six day attendance, exclusive of any grace breaks (see below).

All full-time employees working in Mail Centres on a 40-hour gross week, generally over five days, will have a standard entitlement to 40 minutes meal break per day (this means that up to 60 minutes per day total breaks can be provided by scheduling Relaxation Breaks by joint local agreement – see below).

Other full-time employees on standard attendance patterns will have the same entitlements as in delivery.

Where there are unusual duty patterns (e.g. long or short attendance patterns, or jobs with fewer than attendances per week) the meal break entitlement will be determined on a daily basis for each attendance from the table of entitlements below.

Where the proper entitlement (i.e. based on the national standard and the table below) is currently exceeded, meal breaks in the offices concerned will be harmonised with the standard over the three-year life of the performance Bonus Scheme. This will be implemented in equal stages up to April 2002 as part of the joint revision programme.

Meal Brakes for non-standard, as part-time and extended attendances

Part-time jobs, and full-time jobs with non-standard attendance patterns, will attract meal breaks for each daily attendance as followed, reflecting a generally pro-rata entitlement to the national weekly standard:

Attendance length total breaks probable pattern

Less than 2 hours 30 minutes none (a 10 min grace break should be provided if work permits)
2 hours 30 to 3 hours 10 mins 10
3 hours 1 to 3 hours 30 15 mins 15
3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59 20 mins 20
5 hours to 7 hours 30 mins 30
7 hours 1 to 8 hours 59 40 mins 40 or 20 + 20
9 hours to 10 hours 59 50 mins 30 + 20
11 hours to 12 hours 59 60 mins 40 + 20 or 30 + 30
13 hours or longer 70 mins 40 + 30

Pending completion of the discussions intended to conform with the requirements of the Working Time Regulations, any exceptional attendances of 15 hours or longer will attract an entitlement of 80 minutes.

The actual pattern of breaks within these rules will be agreed locally.


Get your Rep to get hold of your Dom and tell him NO he cant do what he wants He sits down with your rep and knocks up a local agreement.You are entitled to 40 minutes,which if you wish you can split 20 before you go out and 20 at the end.

[eddieb]

so does this mean I can take one 40 min break in the middle of my duty if i choose to

[asbru]

It should be on your 318. Any deviation from this you should run past your manager.

[dropbag_clone]

"Get your Rep to get hold of your Dom and tell him NO he cant do what he wants Shame on you He sits down with your rep and knocks up a local agreement.You are entitled to 40 minutes,which if you wish you can split 20 before you go out and 20 at the end."

Thanks for the quick response.

Could you clarify that advice regarding splitting the 40 minutes.

As an example does it mean that the first 20 minutes can be taken (say) in the office before departing on delivery, and then the 2nd 20 minutes can be taken at the end of your work, be it either within your normal working day, or after a period of extended delivery that has taken you past your normal finish time?

When I was an AG on 25 hours (5 am to 10 am) on finishing my duty (99% of the time I had to return to the Delivery Office) I added my meal break on at the end, and often this then put me into the 'extended delivery area' .. which I duly claimed.

Thanks

[eddieb]

only worked here 12 years whats a 318.not only that we have not had a rep for 3 years now the one we have got is a company man

[apple]

vote him out! stand yourself

[johnnyp]

"Get your Rep to get hold of your Dom and tell him NO he cant do what he wants Shame on you He sits down with your rep and knocks up a local agreement.You are entitled to 40 minutes,which if you wish you can split 20 before you go out and 20 at the end."

Thanks for the quick response.

Could you clarify that advice regarding splitting the 40 minutes.

As an example does it mean that the first 20 minutes can be taken (say) in the office before departing on delivery, and then the 2nd 20 minutes can be taken at the end of your work, be it either within your normal working day, or after a period of extended delivery that has taken you past your normal finish time?

When I was an AG on 25 hours (5 am to 10 am) on finishing my duty (99% of the time I had to return to the Delivery Office) I added my meal break on at the end, and often this then put me into the 'extended delivery area' .. which I duly claimed.

Thanks

Yes mate you CAN split your meal break if you wish 20 minutes before you go out on delivery if you wish and the other 20 at the end of your duty.Or you take it all before you go out,your choice.

[eddieb]

thanks for all the info everyone

[pop it in pete]

Get on to the H.S.E website you will find that anyone working 6hrs + is intitled to a minimum 20min break which must! be taken during your shift and not at the end. So full timers must! take 20mins at least before you leave the office on delivery. However you can take your 40min in one go in the middle if you wish. Take it or risk lossing paid meal breaks cause that will come about.

[coaster]

whats a 318?

[borderscot]

whats a 318?

It is a mythical document that lays down what your duty entails, however since Captain Crook took comand of the Starship Consignia they have been hidden in cyberspace and guarded by the evil emperors stormtroopers known in real life as Dom Dom DeDom Dom

[DGP1]

whats a 318?

It is a mythical document that lays down what your duty entails, however since Captain Crook took comand of the Starship Consignia they have been hidden in cyberspace and guarded by the evil emperors stormtroopers known in real life as Dom Dom DeDom Dom

[eddieb]

just seen a sheet that has been put up in canteen,it appears that from monday we have a 20min break at 8.30 then do missorts.the dom must be pretty confident that he can just implement that.why would anyone want a 20min break after 2.15hrs work then got to do another 5.15hrs on a long day with just the other 20mins.Possibly through midday sun