speical leave

number 1 · Post by **number 1** » 06 Apr 2008, 18:26

i had a funnel to go to on a friday afternoon. i ask if i could get it off because it was my antie. i ask the thursday before. the manager said he get back to me. on the friday i ask again and he said would have to check cause alot of people were off. come the tuesday after everyone tells me i should get it off un payed. they come back and say i cant cause they are short staff.. i saw the union about this because everyone said i should get it off. is it right that they can say i cant have it off? i work at night and beening awake nearly all day i have to go to work. which i did. so does anyone knows if i should of had the time off??

donut · Post by **donut** » 06 Apr 2008, 18:57

Not sure mate .....dodgy things them funnels.
Try the speical leave antie funnel website.

horrible · Post by **horrible** » 06 Apr 2008, 19:04

I think you is sunk.

bigboy · Post by **bigboy** » 06 Apr 2008, 19:38

please learn to spell....... :cfo

Post by **baldrick** » 06 Apr 2008, 20:03

As far as I know you are entitled to Special Leave for the funeral of immediate family (parents/siblings or children)
For an aunt I think it would be discretionary, but in my office you would probably get unpaid leave, depending on
your record.
If you are in a small DO and your Manager is unable to cover your Duty I guess it would be more difficult.

number 1 · Post by **number 1** » 06 Apr 2008, 20:06

thanks... my record like my name is number 1 which is why i didnt get it but others do.

pop it in pete · Post by **pop it in pete** » 06 Apr 2008, 20:17

At the end of the day only you know how special your auntie was to you. Only you know if you should how have gone to the funneral or not. For myself i would go if i wanted to and bugger what the manager said. Somethings in life are more important than work.

number 1 · Post by **number 1** » 06 Apr 2008, 20:22

thanks yes i did go. but the point was am i allowed the time off un paid?

Post by **baldrick** » 06 Apr 2008, 20:22

Yeah I agree. I probably would get unpaid special leave for a funeral at my MC for anyone, whether a friend
or relative. But if I didn't and felt I needed to go, I would and let them stop my pay afterwards.

Post by **baldrick** » 06 Apr 2008, 20:25

number 1 wrote:thanks yes i did go. but the point was am i allowed the time off un paid?

If you've already had the time off your manager could just grant the Special Leave (Unpaid) retrospectively.
Tell him it was important to you that you had to attend.
If he is at all decent he will record it as Unpaid Special Leave.

andy2007 · Post by **andy2007** » 06 Apr 2008, 20:51

I was able to get unpaid Special Leave to go to my Wife's Grandad's Funeral a few years ago. Although I still to this day, think that it was completely out of order for them to demand that I show them the Death Certificate, before they would give me the time off!

It was extremely embarrasing to have to go to my Inlaws, and ask for the original Death Certificate so that I could come to the Funeral. Luckily, they didn't mind me asking (although they thought it was a strange request), but I sincerely hope that I never have to do anything like that again! RM don't seem to appreciate that we have feelings.

If I was you, I'd put in a complaint against the manager who refused the time off. You gave plenty of notice, and presumably produced the Death Certificate for their records (the insensitive bastards!), so there were no reasonable grounds to refuse you the time off.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 06 Apr 2008, 20:59

How this will all change whenever phase 4 comes in ie. covering for one another so it'll be so long to any special leave.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 06 Apr 2008, 20:59

Habeas corpus,wondered why they had coffins at my DO

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 06 Apr 2008, 21:04

When my aunt died a couple of years ago I had to take it out of my annual leave, I tried explaining to my manager that I was closer to my aunt than my mum but that fell on deaf ears.

tivoli · Post by **tivoli** » 07 Apr 2008, 05:59

A couple of years ago I had problems obtaining paid leave for an aunt's funeral even though I was responsible for arranging it. Had to take out a grievance procedure to sort it out. Leave was granted exceptionally, but worry is I've still got 5 aunts and uncles to go, none of which is getting younger.

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