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SillyBilly
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new delivery trials

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Will the new trials of delivery method 2 mean the end of seniority ?
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Depends how the trials go. Will lead to an increase in bully boy tactics and poor planning from the managers which is what they get paid for I guess.
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SillyBilly wrote:
31 Mar 2024, 17:34
Will the new trials of delivery method 2 mean the end of seniority ?
Are they a myth? No one has popped up on here to tell us what Delivery 2.0 is like in practice.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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SillyBilly wrote:
31 Mar 2024, 17:34
Will the new trials of delivery method 2 mean the end of seniority ?
2.0 will not work and I don’t have to tell anyone why if they have any knowledge about the job at all.
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Pidleypoo wrote:
31 Mar 2024, 18:07
SillyBilly wrote:
31 Mar 2024, 17:34
Will the new trials of delivery method 2 mean the end of seniority ?
2.0 will not work and I don’t have to tell anyone why if they have any knowledge about the job at all.
They’re probably trying it out at that delivery office of dreams where they trial all of their nonsensical brain farts and it all just works perfectly.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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SillyBilly wrote:
31 Mar 2024, 17:34
Will the new trials of delivery method 2 mean the end of seniority ?
If it's that bollocks where there's a continuous line of fittings and they decide how much you do dependant on how busy it is then I think I read on here that you can still select which section is yours (subject to the variation) so presumably not quite the end as far as picking duties is concerned.
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The union have said duty ownership will remain
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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I don't think it matters so much these days what the union says!
"Just take it out and see how you go......."
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SillyBilly wrote:
31 Mar 2024, 17:34
Will the new trials of delivery method 2 mean the end of seniority ?
In a word: Yes. Maybe not today or next year but eventually... yes. "I heard..." or "the CWU said...", or "the rep here is certain that..." will mean zero (eventually). If they trial Delivery 2.0 and it doesn't get shot down immediately (if it needs to be - keeping an open mind) it will slowly get adopted.

How can you still have "your bit" (duty) when the point of it is to flex the number of calls based on mail volume? "Your bit" would then expand into the neighbouring duty holder's "bit". Or you'll have to do an extra bit from further down the continuous frame which is like er, lapsing :hmmmm

We did the bench merging trial and that was a disaster. It didn't stop those running it (non-posties) being all upbeat and positive all the way through. Negative feedback meant lots of frowns and "hmmms" ("your not a team player" written all over their faces). Positive feedback (when you struggled to say something nice) got big smiles. And then time ticked on, heard nothing, and then "we're not taking it any further". Most of us could have said that it was a non-starter if they just presented the idea over free coffee and cake and we could have listed the problems - they could have listened and worked to resolve the obvious problems before a trial. But they don't seem to want to work like that. They get an idea into their head and think moving lots of things around in the office will have us working better.

They don't explain what they are trying to achieve; they don't explain how they are going to implement the changes; they don't explain what they are looking to record in the trials; they don't publish what the success criteria is. They seem to like to keep as quiet as possible. Everyone locally therefore doesn't buy into anything they are trying to do and therefore (perhaps rightly) won't lift a finger to help.
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Basildon Bond wrote:
31 Mar 2024, 20:10

They don't explain what they are trying to achieve; they don't explain how they are going to implement the changes; they don't explain what they are looking to record in the trials; they don't publish what the success criteria is. They seem to like to keep as quiet as possible. Everyone locally therefore doesn't buy into anything they are trying to do and therefore (perhaps rightly) won't lift a finger to help.
Sums up their modus operandi in a nutshell.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’