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Martin Walsh has provided an update 24/3.

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Martin Walsh has provided an update 24/3.

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Martin Walsh has provided an update 24/3.

A team-mate sent it to me by text from another platform.

Could someone help me out by adding the information to this thread please ?
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This post from PEC member Martin Walsh about half an hour ago on RMC........ Royal Mail have a business plan which has a total cost sum attached to it. It is unacceptable to the workforce so the CWU have been negotiating to change and mitigate these change proposals and in doing reducing the predicted savings from the business plan.
In addition we want a decent pay rise which is either backdated or with a cash lump sum attached.
This means for Royal Mail they are saying that this potentially means when it goes to the city analyst to see if Royal Mail under the new agreement will still be a going concern going forward that the sum of the business plan is reduced.
That decision is vital and is linked to the independent auditors signing off the accounts and banks continuing to give Royal Mail credit etc.
If that does not happen then we are into a totally new arena of potentially administration.
This has an impact on our dispute as the board will be relieved of their duties and the government appointed administrator appointed who will have no interest in settling pay or mitigate change activity it will be to cut costs while delivering the USO.
This is the reason why the union has stayed in the talks. We not blind to what is happening in the field and units.
We genuinely believe an agreement as imperfect as it might be is better than no agreement. We also believe that the progress we have made on a range of issues including later start times and independent review into the flawed discipline cases are the best ways of resolving those issues.
However we are getting to a point that unless we get that agreement by the end of the weekend , we will have no choice but to take action even with all the risks as we can never accept some of the proposals still on the table.
In addition Royal Mail have a board meeting next Wednesday which is their deadline for any agreement due to their financial statement which has to be made on 17th May and it has to go through auditors etc before.
To say we are at the most serious situation in my 39 years in the job is an understatement and whilst I understand the frustration, do you really believe if we just wanted to be popular by announcing strike action and everything will go away ?
No it is likely that Royal Mail step up their executive action in a desperate last opportunity to reduce costs to satisfy those who they need to keep out of administration.
However we now are getting to that point when we need to test whether Royal Mail need an agreement more than some of their unworkable plans and this includes trials on Mail centres doing delivery offices on IPS and prep.
Those calling for action you will likely get your wishes but remember there are no options now without serious risks
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Don't know if it's true or not
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Post by BenacreNick »

Thankyou yamr1.

The folk on here crave the latest update, so it's important that it's shared quickly.

It looks like the 5pm deadline today will be extended to allow talks to continue into the weekend (yet) again.
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do NOT accept some crappy deal on MY behalf ! I would rather see the board sacked and administration take place than give into them !
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We need some sort of offer put to the members
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just remember we are the union, i aint accepting some crappy deal, we get treated poorly the conditions are terrible in the job, the bills are through the roof but the wages are not going up, if the union come on try offer us a crappy deal, its a straight no, hopefully people wont be fooled by the scare stories, were they not saying they have a 1.7 billion war chest?? seems pretty healthy to me
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CRIBMAD wrote:
24 Mar 2023, 15:02
do NOT accept some crappy deal on MY behalf ! I would rather see the board sacked and administration take place than give into them !
Me too. I'd rather go fighting than cowering to their every whim.
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We need to see some sort of deal thou,yes change but how much change,
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fallenworld2022 wrote:
24 Mar 2023, 15:08
just remember we are the union, i aint accepting some crappy deal, we get treated poorly the conditions are terrible in the job, the bills are through the roof but the wages are not going up, if the union come on try offer us a crappy deal, its a straight no, hopefully people wont be fooled by the scare stories, were they not saying they have a 1.7 billion war chest?? seems pretty healthy to me
So youd sooner accept the dole queue and £70 a week to pay your through the roof bills that a (sub optimal) deal?
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Yamr1 wrote:
24 Mar 2023, 14:54
This post from PEC member Martin Walsh about half an hour ago on RMC........
Does RMC mean Royal Mail Chat?

If so are you saying it was posted somewhere on here by Martin?
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Jaggs wrote:
24 Mar 2023, 15:15

Does RMC mean Royal Mail Chat?

If so are you saying it was posted somewhere on here by Martin?
Yes it was.
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sixfoottwo wrote:
24 Mar 2023, 15:08
CRIBMAD wrote:
24 Mar 2023, 15:02
do NOT accept some crappy deal on MY behalf ! I would rather see the board sacked and administration take place than give into them !
Me too. I'd rather go fighting than cowering to their every whim.
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
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2yearpostie wrote:
24 Mar 2023, 15:13
fallenworld2022 wrote:
24 Mar 2023, 15:08
just remember we are the union, i aint accepting some crappy deal, we get treated poorly the conditions are terrible in the job, the bills are through the roof but the wages are not going up, if the union come on try offer us a crappy deal, its a straight no, hopefully people wont be fooled by the scare stories, were they not saying they have a 1.7 billion war chest?? seems pretty healthy to me
So youd sooner accept the dole queue and £70 a week to pay your through the roof bills that a (sub optimal) deal?
Yeah
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Most of us feel like shutting up shop and walking away. It really isn’t worth the stress for near to minimum wage. The job market is awash with vacancies and many are paying more than this circus act. This can’t be right, treating the people who earn you millions this way. It’s not as though this is a valued job anymore. I wonder what other job you are working non stop from the minute you clock in until the minute you leave. Feeling you haven’t got time to grab a drink or even a toilet break. We don’t have a second to say hello to a customer or help anyone on the street who ask for directions. You feel anxious to get away if a customer has a query as you are continually watching the clock and wondering if you might be able to get just that little bit more done.

All I want is a fair days wage for a fair days work, but what is expected of us now is beyond ridiculous. Good staff are leaving at an alarming rate. Others are off sick and at the point where they really don’t care anymore. My question is, is this damage to mental health and morale repairable? or has it gone way too far to ever get the once good hard working staff back on side. I’m sorry to say I think it’s the latter. Every week now we lose another long serving member. Sad days. :wave