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Judgee
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Deductions

Post by Judgee »

Just a thought but couldn't reimbursement for pay and holidays deducted due to strike action be one of the criteria negotiated for settling the strikes?

Personally I don't see why those who decided to stand up and fight be worse off than those that couldn't or wouldn't strike? :hmmmm
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
enskied
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Re: Deductions

Post by enskied »

Judgee wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 20:10
Just a thought but couldn't reimbursement for pay and holidays deducted due to strike action be one of the criteria negotiated for settling the strikes?

Personally I don't see why those who decided to stand up and fight be worse off than those that couldn't or wouldn't strike? :hmmmm
All for one and one for all.
Its not over yet.
Judgee
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Re: Deductions

Post by Judgee »

enskied wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 20:14
Judgee wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 20:10
Just a thought but couldn't reimbursement for pay and holidays deducted due to strike action be one of the criteria negotiated for settling the strikes?

Personally I don't see why those who decided to stand up and fight be worse off than those that couldn't or wouldn't strike? :hmmmm
All for one and one for all.
Its not over yet.
I know it's not over yet. That's the point. They could put it in the list of things to negotiate? By the end of the strikes some people will be thousands out of pocket and yet every employee will benefit from a negotiated settlement. Seems only fair that we all end up in the same place financially? Or do you think some people should be worse off for making a stand?
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
Zicomurphy
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Re: Deductions

Post by Zicomurphy »

No chance of getting reimbursed the pay that’s been deducted for strike action. They will say it’s unaffordable and, from their point of view, send out the wrong signal in deterring any future strike action if people think there will be no financial loss as a consequence.

I did wonder if they would waive the deduction of A/L as a good will gesture if they were able to reach a deal that the union were happy to put to the membership after the last 2 weeks of talks but now it’s been deducted I don’t think there is any chance of getting that back either.
FilthyBloke
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Re: Deductions

Post by FilthyBloke »

I think if they agree to not deduct holiday pay and such then they should award strike breakers an extra few days.

Otherwise, like someone else said above, it sends the wrong message.
pieoftheday
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Re: Deductions

Post by pieoftheday »

FilthyBloke wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 21:03
I think if they agree to not deduct holiday pay and such then they should award strike breakers an extra few days.

Otherwise, like someone else said above, it sends the wrong message.
Do you mean deduct hours from leave entitlement? Having been on strike a few times over the years I don't recall leave being reduced because of it. Is it legal or is it RM making stuff up as they go along?
Trumanity
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Re: Deductions

Post by Trumanity »

I think you are all deluded. There will be no agreement, no back pay, just executive action going forward. They won't pay us off with EVR's .They won't even pay us off with CRs. That EVR preference exercise on the app was just designed to get numbers who want to leave. They are now focusing on pissing us off each day and harassing us so that we leave with nothing after 10+, 20+ years of service.

But, just remember one thing. If there are no jobs for postmen and women left, there will be less jobs for managers. :wave
portadown
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Re: Deductions

Post by portadown »

What a stupid thing to do is take holidays off people it will cost them a lot more if everyone use there heads
aiden01
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Re: Deductions

Post by aiden01 »

portadown wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:08
What a stupid thing to do is take holidays off people it will cost them a lot more if everyone use there heads
Surely your not advocating people go sick :cuppa
stevejm
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Re: Deductions

Post by stevejm »

aiden01 wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:32
portadown wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:08
What a stupid thing to do is take holidays off people it will cost them a lot more if everyone use there heads
Surely your not advocating people go sick :cuppa
not advocating .... prognosticating
aiden01
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Re: Deductions

Post by aiden01 »

stevejm wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:39
aiden01 wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:32
portadown wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:08
What a stupid thing to do is take holidays off people it will cost them a lot more if everyone use there heads
Surely your not advocating people go sick :cuppa
not advocating .... prognosticating
No idea what that means lol im only a postie :Very Happy (an was joking)
k979aaa
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Re: Deductions

Post by k979aaa »

stevejm wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 23:39
aiden01 wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:32
portadown wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:08
What a stupid thing to do is take holidays off people it will cost them a lot more if everyone use there heads
Surely your not advocating people go sick :cuppa
not advocating .... prognosticating
whatever they can go f**k themselves esp the head of personnel.