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Why do we lose so much when on strike

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nikrad
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Why do we lose so much when on strike

Post by nikrad »

Looking at my pay slip I lost £219 for two days of action. I’m sure there will be some kind of explanation as to why it’s so high ie bonus pay etc, but still I would be ok £109 day.
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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nikrad wrote:
10 Dec 2022, 14:56
Looking at my pay slip I lost £219 for two days of action. I’m sure there will be some kind of explanation as to why it’s so high ie bonus pay etc, but still I would be ok £109 day.
It's 2/5 of your normal flat rate weekly pay including supplements. £545/wk before tax and ni.
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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nikrad wrote:
10 Dec 2022, 14:56
Looking at my pay slip I lost £219 for two days of action. I’m sure there will be some kind of explanation as to why it’s so high ie bonus pay etc, but still I would be ok £109 day.
Don't forget to factor in the AL you'll lose too. Around an hr per day, so another £13 equivalent.
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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Ok thanks I knew that there’s a simple explanation
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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Off topic, I didn't realise the strike dates next week was the 14th and 15th. Well I did the 14th but are we out on the 15th as well?
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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spaceman07 wrote:
10 Dec 2022, 16:08
Off topic, I didn't realise the strike dates next week was the 14th and 15th. Well I did the 14th but are we out on the 15th as well?
Well yes but something can happen between now and then!
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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I know it's right ,but why do we not get paid that amount when we work your days off that amount (not strike) normal weeks? Plus why is it after ten hours overtime you get paid less per hour than normal.
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wally7 wrote:
10 Dec 2022, 17:13
I know it's right ,but why do we not get paid that amount when we work your days off that amount (not strike) normal weeks? Plus why is it after ten hours overtime you get paid less per hour than normal.
When you work overtime, you don’t get allowances or supplements. The over ten hours rate is beyond my comprehension, it must have been agreed with the union at some point in the past, probably to make overtime less appealing
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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:arrrghhh Get this some clever sod thought that posties did to much overtime, racking up hour's and hour's which was thought not to be healthy for said posties. So clever sod thought I know what we will do, after 10 hour's of overtime we will reduce the hourly rate to put people off doing excessive hour's in any given week. Genius. So the more you knacker yourself out the less you get. Has it stopped excessive overtime or just saved RM a shed load of money. You decide. 🤔 :arrrghhh
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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wally7 wrote:
10 Dec 2022, 17:13
I know it's right ,but why do we not get paid that amount when we work your days off that amount (not strike) normal weeks? Plus why is it after ten hours overtime you get paid less per hour than normal.

It's all to do with the Way Forward agreement.

At the time the Union was trying, and succeeding in giving everyone a decent wage without reliance on overtime.
The idea was to make overtime less attractive by bringing in a two-tier system of payments.
At the time the workforce was predominantly full time.

Over the years the overtime rate never kept up with the hourly rate.

Unfortunately since then the business has brought in Part Time duties which means you don't get overtime rates until you reach 37 hours and then it all goes wrong with increasing lower rates.
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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wally7 wrote:
10 Dec 2022, 17:13
I know it's right ,but why do we not get paid that amount when we work your days off that amount (not strike) normal weeks? Plus why is it after ten hours overtime you get paid less per hour than normal.
You actually get paid less per hour for overtime.
Look at it. I think you get paid about 45p less for an hour's overtime.
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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they dont just take a days they also take money off your delivery supplement , thats why i dont delivery d2ds on i/a days in the week we have strikes and just roll them over until i have time to do them .
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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rambo1 wrote:
10 Dec 2022, 15:04
nikrad wrote:
10 Dec 2022, 14:56
Looking at my pay slip I lost £219 for two days of action. I’m sure there will be some kind of explanation as to why it’s so high ie bonus pay etc, but still I would be ok £109 day.
Don't forget to factor in the AL you'll lose too. Around an hr per day, so another £13 equivalent.
Also don’t forget your also losing pension payments as well affecting your future pension amount
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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worktotime wrote:
10 Dec 2022, 21:55
they dont just take a days they also take money off your delivery supplement , thats why i dont delivery d2ds in the week we have strikes and just roll them over until i have time to do them .
But it's never been a D2D payment, even if it was there's no reason not to deliver them on non strike days, carry on as you are doing and you could have up to 6 months worth of D2D's to deliver!
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Re: Why do we lose so much when on strike

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worktotime wrote:
10 Dec 2022, 21:55
they dont just take a days they also take money off your delivery supplement , thats why i dont delivery d2ds in the week we have strikes and just roll them over until i have time to do them .
Delivery supplement is nothing to do with D2Ds, you are breaking procedure :arrrghhh