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Royal Mail staff say parcels prioritised over letters
By Aled Scourfield
BBC News
29 November 2022
Updated 30 November 2022
Royal Mail postal worker
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Royal Mail says it "does not operate a policy of prioritising parcels"
Letters are being left for days in sorting offices with staff told to prioritise parcels and tracked items due to a backlog caused by postal strikes, workers have claimed.
Hospital letters can remain undelivered for days, one worker in south-west Wales has told BBC Wales.
Royal Mail said letters and parcels were of "equal importance".
The Communication Workers Union has organised more strikes after failing to agree a deal over pay and conditions.
Meanwhile, Ceredigion MP Ben Lake said he was "very concerned" about the future of postal services, particularly in rural areas.
It comes after the Royal Mail has been seeking permission to stop letter deliveries on Saturdays, reducing the weekly frequency from six to five days.
Last month Royal Mail proposed a "pay-for-change" offer which would include changes to workers' shift patterns including start times and Sunday working in exchange for a 9% pay rise spread over two years.
Two postal workers have agreed to speak to BBC Wales about their concerns but wished to remain anonymous.
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Reporter Aled Scourfield with two Royal Mail workers with their backs to the camera
Image caption,
Two Royal Mail workers have been sharing their concerns
One claimed he was being told by managers to leave letters behind in the sorting office.
"Especially with these strike days, we know tomorrow it's going to be a big day for us," he said.
"First thing management will say is 'no overtime allowed and just clear your parcels and leave all the mail', so that can mean you'll have half a job left on the deck."
He claimed that he had personally seen what looked like hospital appointment letters being left behind for several days.
"This week I've had a hospital appointment on my round that has been there for two days," he said.
"Unfortunately, you don't agree with your management but you have to do what they tell you to do.
"You just bite your tongue and just do it."
Another worker claimed "it has got the point in our office that, on a daily basis, we've been told by management to prioritise parcels and tracked items over hospital appointment letters".
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Letters are posted into a Royal Mail post box
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Royal Mail advises anyone with concerns over deliveries to contact its customer service team
"We've put our heads above the parapet because we've had enough of what's going on locally and we want to see a change."
Royal Mail told BBC Wales that "every item of mail was important" and it "does not operate a policy of prioritising parcels".
"We regularly remind colleagues that the delivery, collection and processing of letters and parcels should be treated with equal importance," it said.
"Overtime continues to be available to colleagues when it is required, depending on our workload at any given time."
It also advised anyone with concerns over deliveries to contact its customer service team.
The number of letters being delivered to UK households has seen a decline while Royal Mail's parent company, International Distribution Services, has seen its parcel delivery business increase.
Ben Lake MP
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Ben Lake MP is concerned about how the postal service could look in the future
One of the postal workers told BBC Wales that the strike action was about fighting for the future of a universal postal service for all parts of the UK, including rural Wales.
He said if a reduction in letter delivery days was ever allowed it would "be the opening of the floodgates and the end as I see it of the universal service, delivering to 32 million delivery addresses throughout the country for one price".
Ceredigion's Plaid Cymru MP, Ben Lake, has also said he remained concerned although the UK government has reportedly rejected the Royal Mail's proposals.
"Such are the threats facing the universal service obligation and postal service in rural areas, I honestly believe that we would be at risk in a year or two years' time of not having that full postal service we depend on."
In a statement, Royal Mail said its universal service required "major reform".
"We have approached the government to seek an early move to five day letter delivery.
"Our regulator Ofcom's own research shows that a five day (Monday-Friday) letters service would meet the needs of 97% of consumers and SMEs (small and medium-sized enterprises).
"Being required to provide a service that customers have said they no longer need, at significant structural cost to Royal Mail, increases the threat to the sustainability of the universal service."
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By Aled Scourfield
BBC News
29 November 2022
Updated 30 November 2022
Royal Mail postal worker
IMAGE SOURCE,GETTY IMAGES
Image caption,
Royal Mail says it "does not operate a policy of prioritising parcels"
Letters are being left for days in sorting offices with staff told to prioritise parcels and tracked items due to a backlog caused by postal strikes, workers have claimed.
Hospital letters can remain undelivered for days, one worker in south-west Wales has told BBC Wales.
Royal Mail said letters and parcels were of "equal importance".
The Communication Workers Union has organised more strikes after failing to agree a deal over pay and conditions.
Meanwhile, Ceredigion MP Ben Lake said he was "very concerned" about the future of postal services, particularly in rural areas.
It comes after the Royal Mail has been seeking permission to stop letter deliveries on Saturdays, reducing the weekly frequency from six to five days.
Last month Royal Mail proposed a "pay-for-change" offer which would include changes to workers' shift patterns including start times and Sunday working in exchange for a 9% pay rise spread over two years.
Two postal workers have agreed to speak to BBC Wales about their concerns but wished to remain anonymous.
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Reporter Aled Scourfield with two Royal Mail workers with their backs to the camera
Image caption,
Two Royal Mail workers have been sharing their concerns
One claimed he was being told by managers to leave letters behind in the sorting office.
"Especially with these strike days, we know tomorrow it's going to be a big day for us," he said.
"First thing management will say is 'no overtime allowed and just clear your parcels and leave all the mail', so that can mean you'll have half a job left on the deck."
He claimed that he had personally seen what looked like hospital appointment letters being left behind for several days.
"This week I've had a hospital appointment on my round that has been there for two days," he said.
"Unfortunately, you don't agree with your management but you have to do what they tell you to do.
"You just bite your tongue and just do it."
Another worker claimed "it has got the point in our office that, on a daily basis, we've been told by management to prioritise parcels and tracked items over hospital appointment letters".
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Letters are posted into a Royal Mail post box
IMAGE SOURCE,GETTY IMAGES
Image caption,
Royal Mail advises anyone with concerns over deliveries to contact its customer service team
"We've put our heads above the parapet because we've had enough of what's going on locally and we want to see a change."
Royal Mail told BBC Wales that "every item of mail was important" and it "does not operate a policy of prioritising parcels".
"We regularly remind colleagues that the delivery, collection and processing of letters and parcels should be treated with equal importance," it said.
"Overtime continues to be available to colleagues when it is required, depending on our workload at any given time."
It also advised anyone with concerns over deliveries to contact its customer service team.
The number of letters being delivered to UK households has seen a decline while Royal Mail's parent company, International Distribution Services, has seen its parcel delivery business increase.
Ben Lake MP
IMAGE SOURCE,UK PARLIAMENT
Image caption,
Ben Lake MP is concerned about how the postal service could look in the future
One of the postal workers told BBC Wales that the strike action was about fighting for the future of a universal postal service for all parts of the UK, including rural Wales.
He said if a reduction in letter delivery days was ever allowed it would "be the opening of the floodgates and the end as I see it of the universal service, delivering to 32 million delivery addresses throughout the country for one price".
Ceredigion's Plaid Cymru MP, Ben Lake, has also said he remained concerned although the UK government has reportedly rejected the Royal Mail's proposals.
"Such are the threats facing the universal service obligation and postal service in rural areas, I honestly believe that we would be at risk in a year or two years' time of not having that full postal service we depend on."
In a statement, Royal Mail said its universal service required "major reform".
"We have approached the government to seek an early move to five day letter delivery.
"Our regulator Ofcom's own research shows that a five day (Monday-Friday) letters service would meet the needs of 97% of consumers and SMEs (small and medium-sized enterprises).
"Being required to provide a service that customers have said they no longer need, at significant structural cost to Royal Mail, increases the threat to the sustainability of the universal service."
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k979aaa
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Re: Management lies
Well lets invite the bbc or any news org like sky news in to the offices on Friday OR Saturday come on Royal Mail let them in?
I suspect no one will be allowed as it is a bomb site all ready nice try RM hide what you really think.
I suspect no one will be allowed as it is a bomb site all ready nice try RM hide what you really think.
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glenfiddich
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or just post pictures of clear offices from 2 years ago 
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Marshamp11
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As a regulatory body OFCOM should be given powers to be able to walk into any office unannounced at anytime to witness if the USO is being adhered to.
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norris9
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just send them an email - tell them Royal Mail have understaffed us on purpose for over a year. Mail and parcels not been going out on our days off.Marshamp11 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2022, 18:16As a regulatory body OFCOM should be given powers to be able to walk into any office unannounced at anytime to witness if the USO is being adhered to.
Tell businesses too. Tell ebay - sellers on there get punished if things aren't delivered on time and will be oblivious to the above.
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broughts
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Re: Management lies
Been going on since before the pandemic not just started because of the strikes we should of let them know then
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daveyeff
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there is a comment from an ebay seller on the northampton mail centre video. hopefully he will alert other sellers and it may escalate from there. doubt it though.norris9 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2022, 18:19just send them an email - tell them Royal Mail have understaffed us on purpose for over a year. Mail and parcels not been going out on our days off.Marshamp11 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2022, 18:16As a regulatory body OFCOM should be given powers to be able to walk into any office unannounced at anytime to witness if the USO is being adhered to.
Tell businesses too. Tell ebay - sellers on there get punished if things aren't delivered on time and will be oblivious to the above.
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antcpfc
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Re: Management lies
Thomson is like chemical Ali in Iraq . Replace”everything is fine, there are no bombs” with “there is no build up of parcels”
Slider tool. Lol.
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k979aaa
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Re: Management lies
Some people on here are believing the sky is falling on us all like red chicklen.
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guardianangel
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The uso in our office has been ignored for at least a year now,staff not replaced and walks regularly left in frame for 2 to 3 days,ofcom will ignore this as will the Tory government they all have their hands in the pie its worse than china in this country now.
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antcpfc
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Get it on local Facebook groups. They like a good moan.It’s on my local one about delays and someone mentioned (anonymously) turning up at the delivery office to collect your mail

Result is a stressed manager dealing with untold callers.
Result is a stressed manager dealing with untold callers.
Slider tool. Lol.
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daveyeff
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Hopefully this video is proof to ofcom that management are lying. Wether they do anything is another matter. That's assuming they see it.guardianangel wrote: ↑30 Nov 2022, 20:23The uso in our office has been ignored for at least a year now,staff not replaced and walks regularly left in frame for 2 to 3 days,ofcom will ignore this as will the Tory government they all have their hands in the pie its worse than china in this country now.
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k979aaa
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Probably turn a blind eye like LIB DEMS did with the post dawn of tuition fees and the selling of of RM two wrongs don't make a right!daveyeff wrote: ↑30 Nov 2022, 21:25Hopefully this video is proof to ofcom that management are lying. Wether they do anything is another matter. That's assuming they see it.guardianangel wrote: ↑30 Nov 2022, 20:23The uso in our office has been ignored for at least a year now,staff not replaced and walks regularly left in frame for 2 to 3 days,ofcom will ignore this as will the Tory government they all have their hands in the pie its worse than china in this country now.