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Report from Daily Telegraph at 7.31pm saying new pay offer and some controversial changes dropped.
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Royal Mail has made an improved pay offer in a final effort to avoid 10 days of strike action by post men and women in the run-up to Christmas.

The FTSE 250 company is understood to have offered a 9pc pay rise spread over 18 months, rather than two years, as previously tabled.

Royal Mail's "best and final" offer to union leaders has also been sweetened by rowing back on its demand to force staff to work on Sundays. Meanwhile, "family-friendly" working hours are to be offered so that posties can finish in time to pick their children up from school.

The Communication Workers Union (CWU) was last night considering the proposals ahead of scheduled strikes starting on Thursday. Insiders said that the next 24 hours would be crucial to resolving the dispute this side of Christmas.

The CWU has announced industrial action by its 115,000 members on Nov 24, 25, and 30 as well as Dec 1, 9, 11, 14, 15, 23, 24.

Royal Mail bosses have warned union leaders that if the strikes go ahead, previously tabled deals on pay and working conditions will be withdrawn.

The 9pc pay rise is conditional on the CWU agreeing to workplace reforms aimed at
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The new pay offer is nothing new, just 18 months now rather than 2 years, still only 7% if we accept everything. That to me is not even acceptable for the no strings pay rise we were balloted on. No Strings that was the mandate.
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Family friendly hours?
Whats the catch, 1 duty per office only?
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The rest of the article:


The 9pc pay rise is conditional on the CWU agreeing to workplace reforms aimed at transforming Royal Mail into a parcel-focused seven-day-a-week operation that will rival tech savvy competition from the likes of Amazon.

Bosses say Royal Mail is losing £1m-a-day and needs to be overhauled in order to balance the books and avoid a greater number of job losses.

The previous wage deal consisted of a 2pc rise from April, a 3.5pc increase that will be implemented once terms are agreed, a £500 bonus, and a 1.5pc rise next April.

Union sources previously said that this offer was “in the right ballpark”.

Royal Mail is believed to now be offering to bring the 1.5pc rise forward by several months, alongside the other concessions.

The CWU has focused its anger on Royal Mail chief executive Simon Thompson, with local union officials organising “no confidence” votes on the chief outside their workplaces.

The 10 days of walkouts will be particularly damaging to online retailers as Black Friday sales kick off this weekend.

Roughly half of online retailers that use eBay to sell their goods say that Royal Mail strikes will be “disastrous” for business”.

Murray Lambell, head of eBay UK, warned last week: “Industrial action, which is causing widespread disruption to deliveries and sales, at the most important time of year for trading, risks being the nail in the coffin for many small businesses.”
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Surreypostie wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 20:19
The new pay offer is nothing new, just 18 months now rather than 2 years, still only 7% if we accept everything. That to me is not even acceptable for the no strings pay rise we were balloted on. No Strings that was the mandate.
You have no chance of no strings. Read it, Final Offer. We are not going to get anymore, we will just be wasting money if we strike now.
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I can feel another goodwill gesture coming...suspending further strike action while CWU ponder the latest offer. Then a backtrack, strikes back on, then another proposal - replay Ad infinitum
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I hope that the CWU will very quickly tell them to stick their "improved" offer up their collective team backsides.
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“Tech savvy competition”


Absolutely laughable even for the telegraph.

I didn’t know not paying sick pay, holiday pay, pension contributions and not having fixed reliable working hours was now some sort of futuristic utopia to strive for.
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Final offer is never a final offer. Until it is. We’re not there yet.
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If this is true in real terms it is still going to equate to a about 10% drop in wages.
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grchpo wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 20:27
Surreypostie wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 20:19
The new pay offer is nothing new, just 18 months now rather than 2 years, still only 7% if we accept everything. That to me is not even acceptable for the no strings pay rise we were balloted on. No Strings that was the mandate.
You have no chance of no strings. Read it, Final Offer. We are not going to get anymore, we will just be wasting money if we strike now.
I never said we would get a no strings payrise but that was the mandate, this is nothing new, just shortened the timeline, we still have all the changes the majority are opposed to.

My red lines are Annualised hours and sick pay. I never go sick but don't want to be penalised because a few play the game and go sick when they are not and I want a finishing time, these are my red lines, sundays and later starts don't bother me but I no longer have small children, other people will have different red lines. The fact is, we gave a mandate for a no strings pay rise and with inflation this 18 month deal is still a pay cut for massive change. No thanks.
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shove it where the sun doesnt shine !
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Time for the CWU to get out now with a face saving deal whether we like it or not or this fight is lost completely, plenty of big talk on here about more strikes but I’m not seeing that in the ground with my work colleagues if the truth be told.
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BigSacks wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 20:30
“Tech savvy competition”


Absolutely laughable even for the telegraph.

I didn’t know not paying sick pay, holiday pay, pension contributions and not having fixed reliable working hours was now some sort of futuristic utopia to strive for.
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